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You can use the amprolium powder for the coccidiosis and safegaurd for the parasites.

If you can't get a fecal done I would treat with the safegaurd 3 days in a row and 3 x the label dosage on the bottle,

And I would put her on amprolium twice a day given orally or in the water.

For the amprolium 20% powder it is 1/2 teaspoon powder mixed in just enough water for drenching per 40lbs of animal one time a day, or can divide the dose in half and treat twice a day. Which is what we do. This is a much higher dose than what is recommded on the label. You would do this for 5 days.

Sulfa-dimethoxine is actually a better drug for treatment of coccidiosis. Amprolium is used more for prevention. Once the animal breaks with cocci, normally sulfa is used. If she isn't doing to bad, and you have the amprolium it wont hurt to use it

continue doing the probiotic a couple days after the treatments are done.


If she is on feed and acting normal, perhaps just try the probiotics for a couple days. If she isn't hard to drench a yogurt mixed with buttermilk is a good drench . If she continues to have loose poop or off feed at all, I would Start her on the worming and coccidiosis treatment.
 

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Have your vet run a fecal for cocci before treating for it. You don't want the medication to become ineffective by using it when it isn't needed.

That said, if the fecal comes back positive for cocci, have your vet give you: Trimethoprim/Sulfa 960mg tablets... it is what my vet gave me for cocci. They said that it is much more efficient at getting rid of the little buggers. She told us that the SMZ(or SMX)-TMP that is given by other vets is not a high enough dosage for goats to process and get good results from.
 

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Livinwright Farm said:
Have your vet run a fecal for cocci before treating for it. You don't want the medication to become ineffective by using it when it isn't needed.

That said, if the fecal comes back positive for cocci, have your vet give you: Trimethoprim/Sulfa 960mg tablets... it is what my vet gave me for cocci. They said that it is much more efficient at getting rid of the little buggers. She told us that the SMZ(or SMX)-TMP that is given by other vets is not a high enough dosage for goats to process and get good results from.
Trimethoprim/Sulfa 960mg tablets and SMZ-TMP are the same thing. The oral suspension can be what ever you want according to the mix and the dosage rate. Imagine having to break a tablet down to dose a little more or a little less. Not very practical.
 

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Goatmasta said:
Livinwright Farm said:
Have your vet run a fecal for cocci before treating for it. You don't want the medication to become ineffective by using it when it isn't needed.

That said, if the fecal comes back positive for cocci, have your vet give you: Trimethoprim/Sulfa 960mg tablets... it is what my vet gave me for cocci. They said that it is much more efficient at getting rid of the little buggers. She told us that the SMZ(or SMX)-TMP that is given by other vets is not a high enough dosage for goats to process and get good results from.
Trimethoprim/Sulfa 960mg tablets and SMZ-TMP are the same thing. The oral suspension can be what ever you want according to the mix and the dosage rate. Imagine having to break a tablet down to dose a little more or a little less. Not very practical.
Technically you are correct, they are the same drugs... however, the bottled prescrption oral suspension cannot be "whatever you want it to be", as it is pre-mixed. It is at a set level.
The powdered form is not known for having much of a margin of safety, which is why the vets I have spoken with "do not suggest using powdered SMZ-TMP", escpecially when being used in kids.
The tablets work great, since they too are prescription and if they need to be cut, the vets either do it for you or instruct you on how the teblets need to be cut. One half of a tablet is what is given to kids weighing around 10 lbs(not hard to cut a tablet in half, especially using a pill cutter). Tablet pieces(since no matter, what they must be cut at leat in half) are put into a syringe(minus a needle, of course), hot water is drawn into the syringe, place finger over open end of syringe, shake. It takes maybe 2 minutes for the tablet piece(or pieces) to dissolve, then administer as you would a drench. Trust me, there is no problem in using the tablet form, and it is just as practical as using either oral suspension.
 
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