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goodhors

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I meant lazy in only having to deal with one feed. Not having to mess with
"this is horse feed, next trip is cow feed, and after that is sheep feed. I will
do the chickens last with this other feed. And sheep needs a little of this and
some of that, while the horses need the OTHER stuff____" Guys HATE having
to deal with the picky details of mixing extras to take care of the body condition
issue.

And while landowner is a nice guy, resistance to changes in feed is probably because
it is JUST EASIER to use only one kind for everything. Same with various hays.
He may feed animals plenty, but not hay they NEED for best nutrition. Other
animals may do fine with hay A, but other animals need hay B for growth or because
hay A is not working for them.

I worked in a supply warehouse and while there it changed from a "guy job"
to having almost all women inside while the guys did deliveries. Males were
as a group, totally unwilling to do the details like counting out nuts and bolt,
measuring stuff to cut ACCURATELY, charging out the correct quantity of items
so it would get reordered. Women moved into those detail oriented, bean-counter
postions because they WOULD go count items in question EVERY time it
was needed, measure to find an accurate count on other items that needed
tracking. Just not for many guys, "too hard, unneeded" in their opinion.

And that is why I said he is lazy, doing things HIS way doesn't let him
learn better methods, so he feels justified staying in his rut.
 

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yeah, would you come splain all that guy/gal mentality to my hubby?

He gets so annoyed with my attention to detail "hang up"
 

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goodhors said:
I meant lazy in only having to deal with one feed. Not having to mess with
"this is horse feed, next trip is cow feed, and after that is sheep feed. I will
do the chickens last with this other feed. And sheep needs a little of this and
some of that, while the horses need the OTHER stuff____" Guys HATE having
to deal with the picky details of mixing extras to take care of the body condition
issue.

And while landowner is a nice guy, resistance to changes in feed is probably because
it is JUST EASIER to use only one kind for everything. Same with various hays.
He may feed animals plenty, but not hay they NEED for best nutrition. Other
animals may do fine with hay A, but other animals need hay B for growth or because
hay A is not working for them.

I worked in a supply warehouse and while there it changed from a "guy job"
to having almost all women inside while the guys did deliveries. Males were
as a group, totally unwilling to do the details like counting out nuts and bolt,
measuring stuff to cut ACCURATELY, charging out the correct quantity of items
so it would get reordered. Women moved into those detail oriented, bean-counter
postions because they WOULD go count items in question EVERY time it
was needed, measure to find an accurate count on other items that needed
tracking. Just not for many guys, "too hard, unneeded" in their opinion.

And that is why I said he is lazy, doing things HIS way doesn't let him
learn better methods, so he feels justified staying in his rut.
Doing things HIS way is the Order of the day around here all right! OYE VEY!

If I don't do things HIS way, I catch holy heck! What is it with men and doing things THEIR way!
I've done it that way for years!
It makes me want to SCREAM!

Animals suffer from that kind of thinking. They need things done differently when things don't work out one way. I have spent my life learning that you need to adjust! Constantly change your thinking to fine tune. Go with the flow! Rigidity is death to a farmer.
 

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goodhors said:
I meant lazy in only having to deal with one feed. Not having to mess with
"this is horse feed, next trip is cow feed, and after that is sheep feed. I will
do the chickens last with this other feed. And sheep needs a little of this and
some of that, while the horses need the OTHER stuff____" Guys HATE having
to deal with the picky details of mixing extras to take care of the body condition
issue.

And while landowner is a nice guy, resistance to changes in feed is probably because
it is JUST EASIER to use only one kind for everything. Same with various hays.
He may feed animals plenty, but not hay they NEED for best nutrition. Other
animals may do fine with hay A, but other animals need hay B for growth or because
hay A is not working for them.

I worked in a supply warehouse and while there it changed from a "guy job"
to having almost all women inside while the guys did deliveries. Males were
as a group, totally unwilling to do the details like counting out nuts and bolt,
measuring stuff to cut ACCURATELY, charging out the correct quantity of items
so it would get reordered. Women moved into those detail oriented, bean-counter
postions because they WOULD go count items in question EVERY time it
was needed, measure to find an accurate count on other items that needed
tracking. Just not for many guys, "too hard, unneeded" in their opinion.

And that is why I said he is lazy, doing things HIS way doesn't let him
learn better methods, so he feels justified staying in his rut.
That sounds like my dad!

He looks a lot better Queen Mum!
 

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Queen Mum, Good Job. You can see it in his eyes from the first photo to the second how much he has come back to life and he looks very content in the second photo.

Outstanding! Their eyes tell it all. :)
 

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I realize this is sort of an older post... how's he doing? I love the before and after pics :) What a great turnaround!

I wanted to suggest an "all stock" sweet feed for your landlord. They are formulated to be safe for numerous species - particularly by having copper levels that are safe for sheep and goats but adequate for horses as well. We feed an all stock sweet feed by Crossroad, it is labeled as a feed for maintenance cattle, horses, goats and sheep. The tag says to feed with hay or pasture but that's the same on pretty much all livestock feeds. I like it because we can feed it to our horses without worrying that the alpacas will get too much copper if they munch up the leftovers. I guess it makes sense that if all those species can thrive on the same quality hay there should be a formulated feed that works for everybody. I wouldn't feed it to kids or lambs though (creep feeders!) and don't forget your mineral blocks ;)
 

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Thanks Fluffy. I moved from that place about three weeks ago. I came home one day from a five day trip and found out that about 9 goats had died from what looked to me to be exposure. I felt they just didn't have enough body fat to keep them warm. We had a big argument because they had stopped feeding the goats hay and I offered them mine which they refused! They were just cutting down juniper bushes and giving them that to eat instead. Then I suggested that their goats needed copper because they were getting fish tailed and copper tinged hair.

They got mad at me and told me I knew nothing about goats and said copper was too expensive. I had to move. I couldn't take it any more. I am hoping and praying they are doing the right thing by those animals. I did what I could while I was there. I hope Rambo is fine now.

I moved to a much better farm where the animals are healthy and happy and well fed. I wake up every day and feel glad to see well cared for animals.
 
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