emergancy....nursing momma goat falling leaning to the right

[arabianequine]

How many cc penicillin and how often?

I gave her 3cc of penicillin, vit b complex, and 50 cc cal/mag....she seems a tad better. Still won't eat or drink.

I should probably get some liquid in her too right?

 

[elevan]

http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/listeriosis.html (gives the dosage for the penicillin)

 

[elevan]

Still won't eat or drink.

I should probably get some liquid in her too right?

Yes, she needs fluids. You'll either need to drench (force feed) her with fluids or give SubQ fluids.

 

[arabianequine]

Her flank areas are really really caved in? Why is this?

I gave her 3cc penicillin earlier today.

 

[Roll farms]

Listeriosis causes partial (one side) paralysis, hence the sunken in sides (can't eat well) and staggering.
She could also appear 'blind' on the affected side, but that's b/c she can't blink. Watch to see if the eye gets dried out / ulcerated b/c she can't blink. Apply antibiotic ointment 2x a day if that happens, and you can flush w/ contact solution to moisten it.

We chopped alfalfa cubes and mixed it w/ oatmeal and molasses and enough water to make it runny to form a slurry and fed it w/ a drenching syringe 3x a day. You *have* to keep fiber in or the rumen can shut down due to the antibiotics and lack of 'working' on anything to chew up.

Give her 6-8 cc of B vitamin NOW, and again in the morning.

She will need the Pen G 4x a day (every 6 hrs) for the first 3 days, then 2x a day for 5 more days (at minimum).

If it's listeriosis, the Pen G will help, if it's polio, the B will help, so DO NOT let up on either one.

One way I 'test' is to slowly 'poke' at the eye (both sides) to see if the goat can blink. That's not fool proof, but it's one way I check them out when I find them staggery / circling.

I would also drench her w/ gatoraide or pedialyte a few times a day. Keep her 'calm' and away from others (except her baby). No stress.

 

[arabianequine]

Can I use alfalfa pellets? I can soak them in hot water.

I dont have oatmeal on hand...not even sure if I have molasses but maybe.

I just gave her another dose of penicillin but just 6cc. I will repeat with 8 cc in 6 hours.

I gave her some gatorade and water mixed 50/50.

I gave 1.5 cc of vitamin b complex earlier today. Your saying to give 6 cc again now again? The bottle says 1cc per 100lbs.

I will check her eyes now.

 

[arabianequine]

Oh yeah can you give penicillin sub q? I am confused cause I hear people say you can but then the bottle says IM only. I gave it today all IM but she will get sore there eventually.

 

[elevan]

Oh yeah can you give penicillin sub q? I am confused cause I hear people say you can but then the bottle says IM only. I gave it today all IM but she will get sore there eventually.

Yes, it can be given SQ.

Also ignore the dosage on the bottle and use what Roll Farms stated. The dosage on the bottle is for cattle and goats metabolize differently.

 

[arabianequine]

The right eye does seem weird. She can blink both eyes but the right one looks swollen on the under eyelid and just like a vacant stare kinda.

She is not falling and convulsing or whatever she was doing earlier today but still slowly walking in circles....sometimes she will take a few straight steps and then to the right again is the way her circles go. Hard to see her like she was earlier seems a bit better but still not right.

Still not eating or drinking. I gave her more gatorade and water now.

I will get her some more vit b complex now and then again in the am.

I am assuming she is like 125 in weight.

 

[Roll farms]

Probios. I knew I was forgetting something.
Get as much 'fiber' in her as you can until she can eat on her own. It's been a few years, but I seem to recall w/ treatment my doe was able to eat again w/ in a day or so. KEEP FIBER IN HER.

Her milk may dry up between the lack of food / stress...keep an eye on the kids to make sure they're getting enough milk, you may have to supplement.

Good luck!