Falkor - Newest member of the Livinwright Farm herd

[SDGsoap&dairy]

Oh and I'm just saying...I hate the term nigi-pyg...

I'm so with you on that one. And it's not just this cross that makes me crazy, I have a cross bred dog and always refer to him as a mix of the two breeds he is rather than making up a name for it. Not saying you made it up, Livin, just that there is a made up name for EVERY kind of cross out there these days as if they are a breed unto themselves.

He's a VERY cobby little guy... I really see more Pygmy than Nigerian. He is an awfully cute lil' fella.

 

[elevan]

Oh and I'm just saying...I hate the term nigi-pyg...

I'm so with you on that one. And it's not just this cross that makes me crazy, I have a cross bred dog and always refer to him as a mix of the two breeds he is rather than making up a name for it. Not saying you made it up, Livin, just that there is a made up name for EVERY kind of cross out there these days as if they are a breed unto themselves.

He's a VERY cobby little guy... I really see more Pygmy than Nigerian. He is an awfully cute lil' fella.

Some of the names that they make up for dog breeds are just hilarious! I just saw "pugapoo" the other day How about a "Poo-Ton" That name says it all doesn't it!

See more here: A hybrid dog is not a BREED, it is a hybrid, which means it is a mix of more than one purebred dog.


Guess my "Pygerians" are designer goats I'm ok with that...it's less letters to type than pygmy / nigerian dwarf cross and sounds much better than nigi-pyg and everyone knows what I'm talking about

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Is it possible for a pygmy to not have any sort of facial markings?


I will be getting Falkor's wither & cannon measurements tomorrow.
I wish I could trace back to his original owner/breeder. Find out what his dam looked like(primarily her udder), what a sister looks like(if he has one).
His parents have to be cuddle bugs! He will give a gentle tug on the edge of my shirt if I am not giving him scritches.

 

[elevan]

Is it possible for a pygmy to not have any sort of facial markings?


I will be getting Falkor's wither & cannon measurements tomorrow.
I wish I could trace back to his original owner/breeder. Find out what his dam looked like(primarily her udder), what a sister looks like(if he has one).
His parents have to be cuddle bugs! He will give a gentle tug on the edge of my shirt if I am not giving him scritches.

Yes, their faces are quite individualized.

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Is it possible for a pygmy to not have any sort of facial markings?


I will be getting Falkor's wither & cannon measurements tomorrow.
I wish I could trace back to his original owner/breeder. Find out what his dam looked like(primarily her udder), what a sister looks like(if he has one).
His parents have to be cuddle bugs! He will give a gentle tug on the edge of my shirt if I am not giving him scritches.

Yes, their faces are quite individualized.

Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, Emily.

 

[helmstead]

Congrats on the new buck.

Weary of the "wonder what breed this little thing is", I will say, congrats on your Miniature Goat - because that's what he is, since you don't have any idea to his lineage.

This is why the associations won't let you register % Nigerians...you REALLY just can't always tell.

But he is DEFINITELY a Miniature Goat. So there. Register him with the NMGA and start your own herd!

**BTW, he looks full Nigerian to me (go ahead and gasp, y'all!).** The older style Nigi bucks are just like him, more cobby...and it's not easy to get that color on a Pygmy, not even a Pygmy cross because the agouti color locus is really hard to get out of the equation. He reminds me a little of my Rider boy. Boys of his type cross REALLY well on fine boned does, giving more substance and better feet/legs to their offspring.

Remember, folks, Nigerians and Pygmies came from the same place. It was only about 60 years ago that breeders split them and created the two 'types' which became two 'breeds' only about 40 years ago.

 

[elevan]

Congrats on the new buck.

Weary of the "wonder what breed this little thing is", I will say, congrats on your Miniature Goat - because that's what he is, since you don't have any idea to his lineage.

This is why the associations won't let you register % Nigerians...you REALLY just can't always tell.

But he is DEFINITELY a Miniature Goat. So there. Register him with the NMGA and start your own herd!

**BTW, he looks full Nigerian to me (go ahead and gasp, y'all!).** The older style Nigi bucks are just like him, more cobby...and it's not easy to get that color on a Pygmy, not even a Pygmy cross because the agouti color locus is really hard to get out of the equation. He reminds me a little of my Rider boy. Boys of his type cross REALLY well on fine boned does, giving more substance and better feet/legs to their offspring.

Remember, folks, Nigerians and Pygmies came from the same place. It was only about 60 years ago that breeders split them and created the two 'types' which became two 'breeds' only about 40 years ago.

Yep Nigerians and Pygmies both came from the Cameroon Dwarf Goat.

 

[elevan]

Is it possible for a pygmy to not have any sort of facial markings?


I will be getting Falkor's wither & cannon measurements tomorrow.
I wish I could trace back to his original owner/breeder. Find out what his dam looked like(primarily her udder), what a sister looks like(if he has one).
His parents have to be cuddle bugs! He will give a gentle tug on the edge of my shirt if I am not giving him scritches.

Yes, their faces are quite individualized.

Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, Emily.

Thank you Livinwright

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Congrats on the new buck.

Weary of the "wonder what breed this little thing is", I will say, congrats on your Miniature Goat - because that's what he is, since you don't have any idea to his lineage.

This is why the associations won't let you register % Nigerians...you REALLY just can't always tell.

But he is DEFINITELY a Miniature Goat. So there. Register him with the NMGA and start your own herd!

**BTW, he looks full Nigerian to me (go ahead and gasp, y'all!).** The older style Nigi bucks are just like him, more cobby...and it's not easy to get that color on a Pygmy, not even a Pygmy cross because the agouti color locus is really hard to get out of the equation. He reminds me a little of my Rider boy. Boys of his type cross REALLY well on fine boned does, giving more substance and better feet/legs to their offspring.

Remember, folks, Nigerians and Pygmies came from the same place. It was only about 60 years ago that breeders split them and created the two 'types' which became two 'breeds' only about 40 years ago.

I am gasping , primarily because of how BIG boned he is... which is one of the things that "disqualified" my does as being Nigerians in most people's eyes on here... and their legs are much more slender than his.
I am posting his measurements in "reply" momentarily.

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Height @ withers: 22 inches
length of canon: 4 1/4 inches