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We will do all we can to kill every coyote we can now. Told the friends that have the goats as they are just over the hill from there. They are down to 10 nannies but they are kidding now. Wanted them to be sure and keep an eye out.
Met the friends up at the house at 11. The owners have really been cleaning out the house. Moved the washer/dryer & stove out, cleaned the whole upstairs including the stuff in the storage/attic part. Got everything that was "smaller" down into the one front room downstairs. Glen said that the one ceiling will have to come down, where the water leak had taken down some of the old plaster, and that the other is a 50/50 as it is loose at least halfway into the room, so probably would be better to just take it all down too and do all new sheetrock. Okay, that's not the end of the world, I was hoping for fixing but not really surprised that it would be just as well to do the whole thing.
The tub/shower/surround needs to be completely replaced and won't know about the floor until it is pulled out. They sheetrocked up to it, rather than sheet rock then putting in the one piece surround, but he said it is a standard size so there will be some sheetrock to repair after a new one gets put in. Just for ball park figures, maybe 1-2,000 to do each ceiling tear down and re-sheetrock etc, and about 3-5,000 to do the bathroom complete. I am figuring it done and ready to use..... of course less if I do any/some/all the work myself..... So at max 10,000 for the work.
I also asked if I could put in a small bathroom upstairs in the "attic/storage" space, as it is fairly close to being over the other bathroom.... for plumbing purposes. Just for future references. I am thinking though if the bathroom is torn up to replace the shower/tub downstairs, it might be wise to put in the plumbing to the upstairs if I could to save more tearing stuff up later. No tub, but a small shower, sink and toilet. The room has plenty of room for it, but I was just curious if it was possible and he said it was very doable. Something to think about if the downstairs is "opened up" to replace the tub/shower. I would like to put back in a clawfoot tub like I have, since it has proven to be very easy to use with the seat I have for this ankle replacement. I thought it would be better to have the other kind of tub, but this is higher so makes sitting much easier. I would have to look at other types of shower/tubs that would be accommodating for "elderly" as with this ankle it has given me a whole different way of looking at stuff. There are units that have seats for handicap/elderly use.... I would probably do something like that. I like the clawfoot tub for the getting in and soaking though.....
The county has told the owners that they will only allow a smaller than 2 acre piece in the case of hardship.... in otherwords, if it could not be safely portioned off from a bigger piece of property. This means that this will have to be 2 acres since the whole piece is not some crazy configuration. If it was this piece on this side of the road, and the rest of the original property on the other side of the road they would allow it..... but it isn't . So that's okay, but it will just make it worth cost/appraise for more.
. The surveyors are supposed to be coming this week, then they will have it appraised. They still won't give me any idea of what it might be worth. So, I stopped at Glen and Penny's a little bit later, and this is when he gave me a real rough ball park figure on the work, so I have some general ideas of some costs.... and I asked him what he thought it ought to be worth. He said with the house needing the work, in the neighborhood of 60,000..... which is less than I was thinking. Basically the value of the land, plus a little for the house..... so about 40,000 for the land @ 20,000 acre in this area, (might be more like 15,000 but you figure high) and 20-25,000 for the house due to it's age and needing work. So actually a little less than what I was thinking @maybe 75,000...... I am hoping that he is more right than me.
The owners had asked again if I was still interested and I said yes, but that I really needed a ball park amount so that I could figure out if I could afford it. They said that they needed to be fair to me but that they needed to make something off it too. So we left it that they will be letting me know after they get an appraisal, which is after the surveying. So there it sits.....
I really want to do this. A trailer and septic, and a well, at the farm would run me more than that.... I would have to have a 2 acre piece surveyed off the farm and then getting the land perked and all that will cost more than this house. So this would be the better deal right now. Plus, I am thinking that if I could get it, and a not too huge, amount of mortgage, then I could go and offer it as further collateral, for the farm if needed. So the selling/buying price of this place is even more important..... because if I can put down a decent amount and pay less payment than I am paying now, then I will have a little bit more money to use towards the farm.
We'll see, just need to know what the "asking price" will be. If they want too much then it is not worth it to me and I will just reassess things. But it made me feel good that he said he thought in the neighborhood of 60,000 due to the house's condition and age. It has been empty for 7 years.
Met the friends up at the house at 11. The owners have really been cleaning out the house. Moved the washer/dryer & stove out, cleaned the whole upstairs including the stuff in the storage/attic part. Got everything that was "smaller" down into the one front room downstairs. Glen said that the one ceiling will have to come down, where the water leak had taken down some of the old plaster, and that the other is a 50/50 as it is loose at least halfway into the room, so probably would be better to just take it all down too and do all new sheetrock. Okay, that's not the end of the world, I was hoping for fixing but not really surprised that it would be just as well to do the whole thing.
The tub/shower/surround needs to be completely replaced and won't know about the floor until it is pulled out. They sheetrocked up to it, rather than sheet rock then putting in the one piece surround, but he said it is a standard size so there will be some sheetrock to repair after a new one gets put in. Just for ball park figures, maybe 1-2,000 to do each ceiling tear down and re-sheetrock etc, and about 3-5,000 to do the bathroom complete. I am figuring it done and ready to use..... of course less if I do any/some/all the work myself..... So at max 10,000 for the work.
I also asked if I could put in a small bathroom upstairs in the "attic/storage" space, as it is fairly close to being over the other bathroom.... for plumbing purposes. Just for future references. I am thinking though if the bathroom is torn up to replace the shower/tub downstairs, it might be wise to put in the plumbing to the upstairs if I could to save more tearing stuff up later. No tub, but a small shower, sink and toilet. The room has plenty of room for it, but I was just curious if it was possible and he said it was very doable. Something to think about if the downstairs is "opened up" to replace the tub/shower. I would like to put back in a clawfoot tub like I have, since it has proven to be very easy to use with the seat I have for this ankle replacement. I thought it would be better to have the other kind of tub, but this is higher so makes sitting much easier. I would have to look at other types of shower/tubs that would be accommodating for "elderly" as with this ankle it has given me a whole different way of looking at stuff. There are units that have seats for handicap/elderly use.... I would probably do something like that. I like the clawfoot tub for the getting in and soaking though.....
The owners had asked again if I was still interested and I said yes, but that I really needed a ball park amount so that I could figure out if I could afford it. They said that they needed to be fair to me but that they needed to make something off it too. So we left it that they will be letting me know after they get an appraisal, which is after the surveying. So there it sits.....
I really want to do this. A trailer and septic, and a well, at the farm would run me more than that.... I would have to have a 2 acre piece surveyed off the farm and then getting the land perked and all that will cost more than this house. So this would be the better deal right now. Plus, I am thinking that if I could get it, and a not too huge, amount of mortgage, then I could go and offer it as further collateral, for the farm if needed. So the selling/buying price of this place is even more important..... because if I can put down a decent amount and pay less payment than I am paying now, then I will have a little bit more money to use towards the farm.
We'll see, just need to know what the "asking price" will be. If they want too much then it is not worth it to me and I will just reassess things. But it made me feel good that he said he thought in the neighborhood of 60,000 due to the house's condition and age. It has been empty for 7 years.