@CLSranch ... we do have 2 owned farms... 80 acres that is 30+/- miles away, and the "main farm" that we call doug's farm.. approx 100 ac., we bought it off his widow after renting it for years after doug passed away... that is close... and the couple of guys that hunt will shoot any coyotes since we lost the one big male that was at doug's for several years and never bothered anything... so we coexisted well... when he got shot on some other property nearby, a couple of other coyotes moved in and we had problems. DS had a couple of friends that came in with night scopes and such and got 5 in 2 nights, when they got into the sheep at his house... his house and 5 acres backs up to part of doug's farm.... they were coming in through the pastures there and into his yard and killing the sheep. "Doug's farm" is actually half of the original 200+ acre farm that he and his brother bought... we bought doug's half and rent his brother's half from his brother's widow....
Anyway, the coyote and bear problems are at another place that is about 15+ miles away... and this owner's other place is 15+ miles in another direction... not like we can see them from anywhere....
Deb's place is 1/2 mile from me, and it is just hayed. She and her husband had a couple of horses that they rode doing jousting.... since he died, she sold one and moved the other to another stable where a young woman was riding him and competing... since she lives close to Wash DC she has him close there. I think that the girl has gone to college now, and not sure what she is going to do with him... it was his horse... don't know if she is ever going to move out here.... it was more his "dream" I think although she likes to come out, she has no family close here... She did have a retired mare here that belonged to a friend that I used to take care of/check on for the summer a few years ago, out on grass pasture, but she got moved back after the weather got colder and I think she has since passed away so not coming out for summer retirement grazing. She was over 20... sweet dispositioned mare.
We rent several places in order to be able to put cattle out to pasture for summer grazing... Most of doug's farm (his half) is crop ground.... all of the other half that was his brother's is all pasture... we will have that as long as the widow is alive... and she only has a son to leave it to (her daughter died of brain cancer last year at 45... tragic) and his health has some problems... even if he decided to move out here...with wife and step children, talk was building a house at one time.... he will never farm so we probably would have the rent as long as we still own doug's... It is within a mile or 2 of the interstate (and borders the interstate along one whole side) so could be very easily be turned into commercial since the piece next to it is commercial, and all the rest of the properties from there right to the interstate... Eventually it may be worth a small fortune and he could sell and then go buy a farm all in one piece and not have to rent other land. We can only run about 50 head there at doug's, on william's pastures, and only about 35 head on the 80 acres at his other place. That number of cattle cannot make the payments... so we rent other land, and have greater numbers so that they can at least pay the mortgages... and grow feed on a couple of the places and bring the cattle home close for the winter for feeding ease.
We can grow enough hay with rented ground and the crop ground at doug's. We grow about 10-15 acres of corn to make silage... small time by most farmer standards... but it gives us the ability to feed more calves, to now hold animals to try to sell at better times of the year rather than having to pull them off the cows at weaning and sell them right then. We can sell sq bales to horse, sheep, and llama people which helps to make some money at hay making so helps to pay for our hay also. I never planned to be this big, but it is what he started working towards, and he is the one that is going to be benefitting from it.... if we had stayed small and only had 20-30 cows as a hobby farm, we might be out of it by now... I wanted a 20-30 cow dairy... with the way things have been, I would not be milking cows still, because of the costs and all, that have put all the small dairies out of business....plus the 365 day committment... DS is not into milking cows, so maybe it is a blessing I did not get my dairy... he tolerates my few dairy cows, and I get to have them as nurse cows and it doesn't cost me any out of pocket for hay or pasture... just my grain.... and I get to do the "tractor time" that I have always liked in the hay fields. It is not perfect... but I am not sitting in an apartment, "retired" and getting old doing nothing.... just wasting away... I am still doing most of what I like, and not killing myself doing it but not just sitting in a retirement home feeling useless.... and I am not dealing with some of these stupid landowners because I do not have the tact or tolerance, to do it anymore... I have little patience for stupid people....especially wealthy stupid people that buy these mini farms then rent them out with all these big ideas of what "someone else", meaning a farmer, SHOULD DO according to what they have studied and read up on.....book knowledge is fine, I read alot... but if you have never done it, don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do because you studied up on it....
When I am renting your place, I am doing so, so that I can realize some sort of benefit from doing so... and that is why we have given up a few over the years.... Increasing "advice" from landowners that don't have any practical experience doing any of it, don't want to get tied down themselves to taking care of the animals, and think their land is worth a king's ransom since cattle prices must be so good since meat costs so much in the store...means that it is no longer worth it to me to rent it.
We do our very best to do more for the land than we take. We do as much rotational grazing that we can. We do not graze the grass into the dirt. We have a couple places we have had for 20 years and the owners have said that they appreciate that the land is in better shape than it has ever been. We don't always pay the most but we don't take from the land to the point of depleting it. We have been outbid and lost some places. We have had a few call us back and ask if we will come back after giving places to others because of more money...and usually we say no because we have to go back and fix and redo things that have been set back. It is not worth it.