FergusonK's journal - Goodbye Java Jewel.

[Baymule]

That sounds like what I've done to my DH for years! Any man that will do all that for you is a shure nuff keeper!!!

The very day you made the drive in Noah's flood, we were hunkered down in our PJ's doing our best rendition of NOTHING. I just put on rubber boots and a blue jean shirt to go feed and stayed in my PJ's........

Your goats are very pretty animals. Hope the new girls do well for you!

 

[Hens and Roos]

That sounds like what I've done to my DH for years! Any man that will do all that for you is a shure nuff keeper!!!

The very day you made the drive in Noah's flood, we were hunkered down in our PJ's doing our best rendition of NOTHING. I just put on rubber boots and a blue jean shirt to go feed and stayed in my PJ's........

Your goats are very pretty animals. Hope the new girls do well for you!

had to laugh, my DD does chores in her PJ's- grabs her brother's rubber boots and away she goes drives her dad nuts!!, I've learned to say nothing....at least I'm getting help!

 

[Ferguson K]

Noah's flood it was.

I just took an accidental nap for an undisclosed amount of time and now I have to feed in the dark. Ugjugh.

I was going to get pictures of the girls today!

 

[Baymule]

Haha, I have done that. Sit down for a moment because I'm tired and in seconds I am fast asleep.....more like passed out. Wake up with mouth open, drooling, don't know what day it is.....

You wouldn't have taken that nap if you hadn't needed the rest. Sorry about feeding in the dark though.

 

[Ferguson K]

Because I don't want to flood the page with 60 pictures... Here's a link to where to find pictures of the goats at any time:

www.facebook.com/cacklingranch

The new girls are also in this album. More pictures to come. I bounced between my phone and my camera today to get pictures.

 

[Ferguson K]

Reason number 109 why I need a great Pyrenees. Invasive dogs.

We have thousands of dollars invested in goats, horses, and poultry. This year we've suffered thousands of dollars in losses with quail alone due to attacks. Built stronger pens, building supply back up for next year's demands. We suffered the loss of two bucks to theft. Suffered the loss of twenty guineas in one night because we forgot to lock up the coop. Suffered much.

It took this to get my husband to agree on "another dog". Took videos of goats and working dogs together to see why we need one. Took pictures of southerns dog in action. Took pictures of LGDs interacting with kids, and success stories on guardianship. Took losing one of our own dogs to coyotes, and another disappearing act by a full sized GSD...

Took an act of congress.

But we're getting a pair of Pyrs. Here's the final straw.

Miss Red almost lost her ear to a dog attack. From one if my own dogs. Red got a little frisky and Sugar reacted. She was reprimanded immediately and is banned from goat interaction. If I'd have had a LGD on patrol there's a good chance I wouldn't have this. I rounded the corner to grab my drink, went inside for my phone, and Mrs. Likestostalkthegoats decided the play wasn't play anymore. I almost didn't get back outside in time. She was pinned by the throat. I'm not proud to say I rolled Sugar in an attempt to get her to let go.

I still don't know what got into her. She's normally so easy going and constantly licks everything in a passion of love. She's killed opossum and coons, snakes and lizards, but... She's a lover not a fighter. This dog cleans my cats regularly and when she's excited she licks the air and wags her full body.

What if I hadn't been home? Would she have stopped? When the goats go full time in the winter pasture I want a pair of working dogs ready to go. Poor red.

 

[Latestarter]

Starting out with

If you put LGDs with the livestock, you'll have to remove house dogs entirely from that area/location/enclosure. You want the LGDs to bond with the livestock, and take possession of them and that area, where THEY are the alphas and don't let ANY other dogs or predators enter and survive. Had that happened with LGDs, your Sugar most likely would have been killed, probably before you could have returned to stop it. It's ok for the LGD's to be friendly with house dogs OUTSIDE the goat/livestock enclosure/area, but the house dogs (and other house pets) should never be inside with the livestock and LGDs. You don't want ANY other dogs allowed in with the LGDs and goats.

Have to admit I'm a little confused as you kinda contradicted yourself above:

"... and Mrs. Likestostalkthegoats decided the play wasn't play anymore." followed by "She's normally so easy going and constantly licks everything in a passion of love." Why would you let your house dog stalk the goats in the first place? That's setting things up to happen as they eventually did. Had you not been there to break it up, Red would most likely now be dead, and once a dog has killed another animal, it can become habitual. They'll do it again. It becomes a game. Their ancestors are wolves.

Sorry for Red. Damage looks mostly superficial and she should heal up, but I doubt she'll ever trust Sugar again. And as an aside, you shouldn't either. #jsutsayin and ending with

 

[promiseacres]

Ugh, so frustrating. But I agree Red shouldn't be allowed around the livestock. Attacks generally will intensify. I personally would rehome (or euthanise) a dog who did this... but that's just me and I only have 4 acres so no separate areas for a naughty dog. LGD sounds like a good idea.

 

[promiseacres]

Ugh, so frustrating. But I agree Red shouldn't be allowed around the livestock. Attacks generally will intensify. I personally would rehome (or euthanise) a dog who did this... but that's just me and I only have 4 acres so no separate areas for a naughty dog. LGD sounds like a good idea.

 

[Hens and Roos]

sorry to hear here this, hope your goat makes a speedy recovery