FF Goat - Asking Questions

[B&B Happy goats]

Also, with cattle, if the calf stays in the canal for too long the head will swell making everything more complicated and I'd imagine the same applies to goats.

Maybe @Ridgetop could give some input on pulling without contractions if they come online?

Put it emergeny , section, pm ghost whisper, souther by choice...they will contact people who will help you fast

 

[StarSpangledNubians]

I don't a lot experience with pulling but if you can't find someone else to walk you through It, feel free to pm me and I can give you my number and help the best that I can!

 

[MargaretClare]

Hopefully you can get a hold of somebody experienced. Good luck. I do believe that she and you need help asap.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Goats who stop pushing do so for a reason. You felt something blocking the birth canal. You can't just leave it at that. You need to go in. Lube up and explore. Please do NOT give oxytocin unless you are certain that she is totally dilated - that is a recipe for disaster such as a ruptured uterus. Hopefully you feel two feet and a nose. If so, pull on one leg and the nose. The shoulders are bulky and it's easier to get one through at a time...the other will follow. If you feel one leg and a nose - you can still pull. Going in will stimulate her to push unless she's totally exhausted. Pulling when she pushes is great - but if she's not pushing anymore you still have to get the baby out. Do you have a vet that you can call?

 

[B&B Happy goats]

Im pretty sure you only pull while she pushs and that would be in a downward pull, but you need help. Panicking isn't going to help so don't panic.she needs your comfort, i will send some pms out but please post in emergency now...i will do the best i can to get someone to help you. I see you just got back upfustratedeartmothe is super !

 

[MargaretClare]

Goats who stop pushing do so for a reason. You felt something blocking the birth canal. You can't just leave it at that. You need to go in. Lube up and explore. Please do NOT give oxytocin unless you are certain that she is totally dilated - that is a recipe for disaster such as a ruptured uterus. Hopefully you feel two feet and a nose. If so, pull on one leg and the nose. The shoulders are bulky and it's easier to get one through at a time...the other will follow. If you feel one leg and a nose - you can still pull. Going in will stimulate her to push unless she's totally exhausted. Pulling when she pushes is great - but if she's not pushing anymore you still have to get the baby out. Do you have a vet that you can call?

Thank you for the oxy info. I have no experience using it myself but have been with my aunt using it on dogs. I'm sorry to have given her misguided advice.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Im pretty sure you only pull while she pushs and that would be in a downward pull

That is what the literature says - but 30 years of experience tells me that is not always true. If the doe stops pushing - you have to pull! And there are many times that before you can pull down - you have to get the baby UP and over the brim of the pelvis. Depends on the position the kid is in.

 

[B&B Happy goats]

That is what the literature says - but 30 years of experience tells me that is not always true. If the doe stops pushing - you have to pull! And there are many times that before you can pull down - you have to get the baby UP and over the brim of the pelvis. Depends on the position the kid is in.

Understand was just trying to get her help and you magically appeared, thank goodness....

 

[StarSpangledNubians]

Good info about Oxy! Glad frustratedearthmother came in! I have only ever used it once and that doe was dilated already. Make sure she is dilated if you go that route as has been said already. I do agree with the info given. I pulled kids on my mini Mancha girl when she was aborting twins a month early. Thinking back it was almost the same thing you are going through. Other than she only had one bag, not 3. We let her push for about 25 minutes went in. Felt the problem. She stopped pushing and we started to pull. Regardless that didn't work and we ended up having to cut the kids to get them out. But they were preemies and no way they would survive a month early. These seem full term. Hope whatever you decide to do works out and everyone is just fine!

 

[Louannx]

I found emergency section. Don’t know how to post.