For those who like to see spots...our new Boer buck

[babsbag]

I NEED that black and white one, and I mean NEED. And seriously, what are you feeding them and how much are they eating? We do NOT see kids like that out here, no matter how much food is pushed and how much the dams and sires cost. They are amazing. And by the way, are they doelings or bucklings?

I really NEED that black and white one.

 

[kinder]

Really nice Rolls, if I may...And yours also Babs...BEAUTIFUL BABY'S

 

[Roll farms]

They're bottle babies, getting 3 - 24 oz bottles....and alfalfa hay. At 6 wks just starting to play with their feed but not really eating it. Noble Goat.
Technically they're both black and white...but the loudly dappled one is a doe, named Hilton....the mostly black is a buck named Mathis. Their mama is my avi pic, Valentine. And you cannot have her. Sorry.

 

[babsbag]

Shoot...a doe even. She is what I was hoping for from my black doe and spotted buck but it didn't happen. I got a solid black and a really cool colored one, but not black and white, and both boys. The good thing though is that my friend liked him well enough that she wanted him for a pack goat and traded me the purebred buckling for this commercial buckling. I got the deal, IMO.

 

[babsbag]

And again, they are really big kids, nice genetics behind them. How much do you think they weigh at 6 weeks. And only 24 oz bottles? My buckling is 2 weeks today and already taking 24 ox 3x a day and acts like he is starving.

 

[Roll farms]

Last time I put the tape to them (early last week) they were at 27 and 32#. Not real accurate but Santa didn't bring me my platform scale I've been wanting.

Everyone seems to have a favorite color pattern they are after....I want red or black spotted paints. Haven't had any. Patch (being paint, bred to Joker) is my best shot at it. Her doe kids from July are absolute monsters....88 and 84#.

I'm giving all the credit to Bullitt, I loved every kid he made but...we kept some daughters (when he finally blessed me with some) so he had to go. He produced 3 different county heavyweight wethers last year. Fast growth and good muscling is real big on my list.

That kid above is pretty...very pretty. Had it been a girl, I mighta come stole it.

Maybe you should reserve Valentine's next babies and plan a trip to IN...She's being bred to a Coppertox grandson named Chase, a big old hoss of a boy who's black headed next, sired by Copper's Domino....Then she'll be bred to Joker....her dance card is so full...ha ha.

This is Chase...just here for a few select breedings b/c he has horns. He's ours but I'm looking for his next home already. This pic was taken when he was 5 mos. old.

 

[babsbag]

Rolls, your goats are amazing, I don't understand why we don't see that here. I have rubbed elbows with some of the area's best and don't see stuff like that. I am sure there is a picture of Bullitt on here somewhere but if you have one easily accessible I would love to see it.

The 4H wethers being shown at June fairs are being born in Nov or they don't make weight, and I think weight is like 65 lbs or so. There is a real scramble to find those kids as Boers out here where it is 100+ in the summer do not want to breed until Fall.

What is the price range for a market wether? And what would a buck of Chase's quality sell for? Is he registered? Is Valentine?

I have 2 or 3 soon to be wethers right now but they will be for Sept. fairs. But I think if they were from your goats they would have been ready for June.

 

[Roll farms]

Show off Bullitt? Nah, not me. *halo* I still think he's one of the best red bucks I've ever seen. Look at his head! (I'm half in love w/ this goat...lol).
His 1 yr old pic


almost 2 yr old

almost 3 yr old


I traded Chase for a bred doe - he's "Just" a purebred, but his breeder and I (who both love Coppertox / Lazy S-T genetics) think he's just too nice to wether. I think he was asking $300.00 for him before we worked out the trade.

Wether prices range from cheap to ridiculous...Really good ones are hundreds and even thousands of dollars. Personally, I think that's ridiculous, esp. for a terminal / non breeding animal.
Our wethers are $150.00. If I think they're worth more than that, by golly they stay a buck and contribute to the gene pool.
I've had people insist that the 'premiums' paid at the big shows make up for the $$ spent on good wethers but still...it's a terminal / non-breeding animal!


Valentine is a FB registered doe, I paid $900.00 for her. Once I've gotten doelings from Chase and Joker out of her, I'll probably sell her as she's a bit lacking in length...but I wanted to get something going with that color pattern and she was the best I could find.

(I paid $1700.00 for a bred doe 3 yrs ago, that was supposed to be bred to Valentine's dad, Kung Fu Panda....long story short, she spit out 2 "mediocre" solid-red boys and half of her udder was dead.
So next time I went right to KF's new owner and bought the kid I wanted!)

 

[babsbag]

She's a FULLBLOOD ? I never would have guessed in a million years.

I can see why you like Bullitt, he is a very nice buck, not to mention the red part, and yes his head is impressive.

The market wethers around here for 4h sell for 200-300 but the kids sell them at the fair for as much as 1600, which is absolutely insane. Let's not give these kids a reality check while they are growing up. I understand profit and hard work and all of that but 20.00 a lb, really???

And 300.00 for your purebred boy up there would have been a steal. We have some breeders here that frown on PB but the FB stock is not any better and you NEVER see spots in a FB.

I am supposed to be concentrating on building a dairy but when I see quality Boers like yours it makes me want to continue to raise both. I just have a zoning issue with the number of does I need for the dairy if I keep Boers too. But darn, they are nice. I have never been to Indiana...

 

[Roll farms]

There are some really good spotted genetics in TX.

But you're welcome to come all the way to IN if you want...