Frustrated with my two LGD's... :( Help Please.

Great ideas guys, thanks for responding! The problem is that our Toli is VERY submissive, she is a bit of a scaredy cat and she won't do anything while we're there, I can set little chicks and baby goats on top of her and when we let the goats out she'll just follow them around like a good dog. It's always the same time (about 5 am) in the morning when no one is up there that she digs INTO the pasture and "picks a goat" and chases it until it's exhausted on the ground, and I can never catch her doing it! The few times I did catch her I did become unglued on her and she didn't seem to register that that's why I was yelling at her. :(
 
Are the pups still in with her?

She is still a pup herself and it sounds like she has that early morning "I want to run and play" while it is cool out attitude.
Not acceptable I agree but is the only time? Does Diego join in or is he separated?

Are all the pups together or have you started dividing them out for more one on one or 3 on 1 time with mom?
 
Hi Southern!

The pups are 12 weeks old now and all have gone to their new home except two, one we will be keeping and one my friend has purchased that we are holding for her. The pups still sleep locked up safe in the barn from about 8 pm to 6 am.

Diego never initiates it, or does it on his own, but if she is doing it yes he will join in. In the rare case that I have caught them doing it as soon as I yell one word he drops to the ground and runs away... instant knowledge he is doing something bad. Toli on the other hand is so fixated she doesn't even see me running and screaming up to her until I am almost on top of her.

She always does it before the pups are out of the barn for the morning.

Yes I think it is the "run and play in the morning while cool out" and yes that is the ONLY time she has ever done it but it is become increasingly frequent.

We have reinforced the fencing several times to no avail and I haven't figured out how to wire horse corral with hotwire yet, so I don't know know what the next step is but I have to get her to stop asap. I could tie her out, or put her in the barn with the pups temporarily?
 
if this was my dog, id slap a shock collar on her and set my alarm, stop her before she digs, or leash her...
 
When you locked her in with the bucks did they discipline her or did she not try anything with them? You mention puppies, do you have an older LGD you could put Toli with? Our adult LGD disciplined our young male when she felt he was too rough with the lambs and sheep.
 
OMG! 2nd time I have replied to an old post! I really have to check the dates before doing that. :th
 
I hate it when we don't get updates. What finally worked in this situation? We don't know!
 
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