Gardening Thread 2021

[farmerjan]

What is the dilution factor? I can't read it.... everything is going to continue to go up.... I am not surprised by the price... the last bottle of Draxxin antibiotic I bought was $1150.00 for 250 ml bottle.....dose is, 1 ml per 110 lbs of animal.... they just came out with a rebate since the patent is off now and there is a generic... but it still is running about $950 for that. We only use it for pinkeye and then only if it is bad and mostly for the dart gun for cattle out on pasture where there is no catch pen facilities..... NOTHING is cheap anymore and it is going to get worse. This year has been worse for pinkeye in the cattle than most years....

 

[Grizzlyhackle]

What is the dilution factor? I can't read it.... everything is going to continue to go up.... I am not surprised by the price... the last bottle of Draxxin antibiotic I bought was $1150.00 for 250 ml bottle.....dose is, 1 ml per 110 lbs of animal.... they just came out with a rebate since the patent is off now and there is a generic... but it still is running about $950 for that. We only use it for pinkeye and then only if it is bad and mostly for the dart gun for cattle out on pasture where there is no catch pen facilities..... NOTHING is cheap anymore and it is going to get worse. This year has been worse for pinkeye in the cattle than most years....

I don't know I didn't look that far.
I feel like I hemorrhage money every week. I'm hoping whoever can afford that bug killer would offer to adopt me.

 

[Alaskan]

What is the dilution factor? I can't read it.... everything is going to continue to go up.... I am not surprised by the price... the last bottle of Draxxin antibiotic I bought was $1150.00 for 250 ml bottle.....dose is, 1 ml per 110 lbs of animal.... they just came out with a rebate since the patent is off now and there is a generic... but it still is running about $950 for that. We only use it for pinkeye and then only if it is bad and mostly for the dart gun for cattle out on pasture where there is no catch pen facilities..... NOTHING is cheap anymore and it is going to get worse. This year has been worse for pinkeye in the cattle than most years....

Your cattle getting pink eye, is the skin around their eyes white?

My grandfather always said it was cattle with white skin around the eyes that were more susceptible. Never looked into it though....

 

[farmerjan]

Herefords with the white/pink pigment around their eyes, were thought to be more susceptible to pinkeye. We see no more problems with the herefords than any others. In fact, we have 75-80% black cattle. Mostly angus and angus crosses. It has hit every color cattle we have... black, the few herefords, a couple of the char x angus, one of the few red hided cattle. No one seems immune to it and it has hit a couple of pastures more than others. A couple years ago there was a couple friends with cattle that were having a horrible time with it and it seemed to be a new strain, and we had maybe 2 cases in all the cattle.
So it seems this is our year. We vaccinated for pinkeye several years and actually seemed to see our cases rise from very few to quite a few. Quit vaccinating and it dropped way down. Haven't vaccinated for it in at least 10 years.

One thing we do find is that some of the animals seem to have a natural resistance to it and when we keep heifers out of these families of cows, the off spring seem to be more immune to it also. So we have been keeping more heifers from the "more immune" cows. Another thing, I think that they do build up immunity because we very often get pinkeye in cattle that we buy and bring in. Hence it seems to follow out that they do not have the immunity to the "bugs" on our place like the cattle that are born and raised here.

But, you are right, there was thoughts around that pink and white skin/hair around the eyes meant that they were more likely to get pinkeye. Yet, straight bred charolais cattle, with the pink noses, seldom seem to get it. The ones that have the dark/grey/black noses are usually a cross with a black hided animal, and often their hair coats are more smokey in color, yet they get it just as much proportionately as the blacks.

 

[Alaskan]

Herefords with the white/pink pigment around their eyes, were thought to be more susceptible to pinkeye. We see no more problems with the herefords than any others. In fact, we have 75-80% black cattle. Mostly angus and angus crosses. It has hit every color cattle we have... black, the few herefords, a couple of the char x angus, one of the few red hided cattle. No one seems immune to it and it has hit a couple of pastures more than others. A couple years ago there was a couple friends with cattle that were having a horrible time with it and it seemed to be a new strain, and we had maybe 2 cases in all the cattle.
So it seems this is our year. We vaccinated for pinkeye several years and actually seemed to see our cases rise from very few to quite a few. Quit vaccinating and it dropped way down. Haven't vaccinated for it in at least 10 years.

One thing we do find is that some of the animals seem to have a natural resistance to it and when we keep heifers out of these families of cows, the off spring seem to be more immune to it also. So we have been keeping more heifers from the "more immune" cows. Another thing, I think that they do build up immunity because we very often get pinkeye in cattle that we buy and bring in. Hence it seems to follow out that they do not have the immunity to the "bugs" on our place like the cattle that are born and raised here.

But, you are right, there was thoughts around that pink and white skin/hair around the eyes meant that they were more likely to get pinkeye. Yet, straight bred charolais cattle, with the pink noses, seldom seem to get it. The ones that have the dark/grey/black noses are usually a cross with a black hided animal, and often their hair coats are more smokey in color, yet they get it just as much proportionately as the blacks.

Thanks for the long explanation. Interesting.

I guess it is like worms... and everything else... breed for animals that don't have issues with it.

Since my grandfather thought it was the white eye ring, my grandfather bred herefords with brown eyeliner. He used a jersey to bring it in.

So his herd looked just like proper herefords, but with the thinnest brown eyeliner.

He also bred them that way to avoid cancer eye.

But then again...... maybe he stopped getting pink eye and cancer eye since he sold those.....

Interesting.

 

[Mike CHS]

I haven't bought any BT in a long time but at that price it will be a lot longer.

 

[HomeOnTheRange]

We do all of our liquid measurements by weight, so we use 2.8g per gallon when using AzaGuard on food crops. We also mix in a non-phytotoxic crop oil.

 

[farmerjan]

Thanks for the long explanation. Interesting.

I guess it is like worms... and everything else... breed for animals that don't have issues with it.

Since my grandfather thought it was the white eye ring, my grandfather bred herefords with brown eyeliner. He used a jersey to bring it in.

So his herd looked just like proper herefords, but with the thinnest brown eyeliner.

He also bred them that way to avoid cancer eye.

But then again...... maybe he stopped getting pink eye and cancer eye since he sold those.....

Interesting.

Interesting on the crossing in the jersey for the eye ring..... I have had jerseys with it and right now have a 1/2 hol 1/2 angus, mostly black cow with black face/head that has it in one eye..... had a jersey with it a couple years ago.... but for the most part it seems random and we might get 2 or 3 cases a year for years then seem to get a full blown outbreak like this year.

 

[Alaskan]

Interesting on the crossing in the jersey for the eye ring..... I have had jerseys with it and right now have a 1/2 hol 1/2 angus, mostly black cow with black face/head that has it in one eye..... had a jersey with it a couple years ago.... but for the most part it seems random and we might get 2 or 3 cases a year for years then seem to get a full blown outbreak like this year.

Crazy interesting.

 

[R2elk]

Picked some of the pumpkins this morning.
The biggest 2 in this pic are the Early Giants. The one on the left is 23 lbs. and the one on the right is 30 lbs.

The Big Moose in this one is 93 lbs.