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Nice looking herd! I like how they are all very different looking. Sorry if you posted it and I missed it, but how old are they? I am just trying to compare. My two little bottle fed Jersey steers are pretty small compared to yours.
 

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WildRoseBeef said:
Nice pics.

Just a word of caution though, I'd be real careful about letting your kids hang around a Jersey bull like that.

And that brockle-faced brindle heifer needs a bit more groceries too. ;)
Yeah I was standing right behind them while DH took the pic. And I didn't let them hang out for long. I only put DD on the ground for a second.
 

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If you value your kids... make sure they are at least 2 very HOT fences away from that BULL immediately. All bulls are dangerous, but the dairy bulls much more so. The Jersey bulls rank at the very top of that catagory. Yes, I worked with beef, dwarf, and dairy bulls at UCD. And YES, I have had quite a few close calls. So I have first hand experience. That electric fence will NOT hold in a Jersey bull when he gets an idea that there in a HOT lady friend nearby. Build yourself a corral with 6' tall 4"very heavy diameter STEEL posts with STEEL top and 2 other rails and at least 4"x 4" very heavy gauge steel panels. Then add electric wires on the inside. That may just hold a JERSEY BULL. Also, I would very serously recommend you purchase a mutimillion $$$$$$$ liability insurance policy to cover you in case of a death or injury to a person caused by your Jersey bull. That is if you can find an insurance company to sell you that policy. If this bull was mine, I would immediately send him to freezer camp... like yesterday. NOT worth the risk. Good luck.
 

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I agree, get some round pen panels to keep the Bull behind. Jersey bulls can be a terror. I certainly wouldn't let kids anywhere in a pasture with one. He may have been a bit tired from his travel but he sure will perk up! Seeing those little ones near that bull made my hair stand up.
 

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Great pics - agree with Karin Sugar needs a meal or 2
I'm sure she will fill out with you guys pampering her. Eddie looks great but please please be careful
 

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I want to add the pic of the kids and the bull scared me but he is really gorgeous!!!!! You have a nice little herd there. I am also curious how old are they?
 

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Bossroo said:
If you value your kids... make sure they are at least 2 very HOT fences away from that BULL immediately. All bulls are dangerous, but the dairy bulls much more so. The Jersey bulls rank at the very top of that catagory. Yes, I worked with beef, dwarf, and dairy bulls at UCD. And YES, I have had quite a few close calls. So I have first hand experience. That electric fence will NOT hold in a Jersey bull when he gets an idea that there in a HOT lady friend nearby. Build yourself a corral with 6' tall 4"very heavy diameter STEEL posts with STEEL top and 2 other rails and at least 4"x 4" very heavy gauge steel panels. Then add electric wires on the inside. That may just hold a JERSEY BULL. Also, I would very serously recommend you purchase a mutimillion $$$$$$$ liability insurance policy to cover you in case of a death or injury to a person caused by your Jersey bull. That is if you can find an insurance company to sell you that policy. If this bull was mine, I would immediately send him to freezer camp... like yesterday. NOT worth the risk. Good luck.
Posts like this make me want to disregard any posts regarding the dangers of bulls. It's soooooo melodramatic. I get that people on this forum are not bull people, but we must remember that even for those who AI, bulls are necessary to keep cattle herds going and somebody has got to own them.

I get that because cattle are big even the sweetest one can cause an unintentional injury but this post? Please. :rolleyes: This is almost as bad as the woman who believes that if she buys a pig, it will eat her. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That said, I don't know that I would necessarily trust a bull that I just bought unless I knew he had been loved his whole life. Like any adult animal, unless you know how they were treated growing up, even if you love on them, they do have the potential to turn on you.

You have a beautiful herd. I can't wait until the day I get mine. :D
 

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CESpeed: I have about 60 years experience with cattle (not just cows). I also happen to be a semi-retired EMT, and have seen a few things that just might make me somewhat of an "expert" on the bull subject.

Granted, not all bulls are dangerous. Probably 75% are not. Of the remainder, about 20% are only dangerous because they want to play, and believe me, they play rough. The remaining 5% are the ones that most of us are talking about. These are the bulls that can turn on a person so quickly that there is no chance of getting to safety. This can happen in an instant, and it is impossible to predict. A bull like this can and will kill a person for no reason at all, other than the bull decides he wants to do it. And---the worst ones are the ones that have been "loved on", and treated like pets. These bulls are the ones who have no fear of humans, and usually are in close contact with their owners daily.

When I read about some of those who post here about how to "gentle" their bulls, I cringe. These people are playing with fire. The safest thing is to not pet, groom, or have any physical contact with a bull, except when necessary for health reasons. Keep any interaction with them to a minimum, and make sure that they have a good deal of respect for humans. I'm not advocating that they be mistreated, or beaten, but just don't make pets of them.

This has been my experience over the years, and I'm sure that some others will disagree. That is, until they find one of the bulls in the aforementioned 5%.
 

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CESpeed said:
Posts like this make me want to disregard any posts regarding the dangers of bulls. It's soooooo melodramatic. I get that people on this forum are not bull people, but we must remember that even for those who AI, bulls are necessary to keep cattle herds going and somebody has got to own them.

I get that because cattle are big even the sweetest one can cause an unintentional injury but this post? Please. :rolleyes: This is almost as bad as the woman who believes that if she buys a pig, it will eat her. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That said, I don't know that I would necessarily trust a bull that I just bought unless I knew he had been loved his whole life. Like any adult animal, unless you know how they were treated growing up, even if you love on them, they do have the potential to turn on you.

You have a beautiful herd. I can't wait until the day I get mine. :D
Since as you said, people on this forum are not "bull people", sometimes points need to be made VERY clearly in order for the seriousness of the matter to be understood. Bulls are not something to mess around with, and I would never recommend a first time cattle owner to get a bull, a Jersey bull at that. I've worked with several bulls (on dairy farms) and one in particular kept a bull running with each group of cows. They ONLY kept young bulls, and it was made very clear to me to keep one eye on the bull at all times when I was in with the cows. I was told if a bull even looked at me cross ways to let them know and that bull would be shipped out immediately. Bulls can go from "fine" to "stomp you" in a split second.

It's not that bulls can cause an unintentional injury, it's that some bulls WILL try to kill you. Dairy bulls are nothing to mess with. Yes, bulls are needed to continue having cattle, but there's a reason AI became so popular! Many dairies don't keep a bull at all anymore, simply because they're so much work to keep contained and they're so dangerous.
 

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CESpeed said:
Bossroo said:
If you value your kids... make sure they are at least 2 very HOT fences away from that BULL immediately. All bulls are dangerous, but the dairy bulls much more so. The Jersey bulls rank at the very top of that catagory. Yes, I worked with beef, dwarf, and dairy bulls at UCD. And YES, I have had quite a few close calls. So I have first hand experience. That electric fence will NOT hold in a Jersey bull when he gets an idea that there in a HOT lady friend nearby. Build yourself a corral with 6' tall 4"very heavy diameter STEEL posts with STEEL top and 2 other rails and at least 4"x 4" very heavy gauge steel panels. Then add electric wires on the inside. That may just hold a JERSEY BULL. Also, I would very serously recommend you purchase a mutimillion $$$$$$$ liability insurance policy to cover you in case of a death or injury to a person caused by your Jersey bull. That is if you can find an insurance company to sell you that policy. If this bull was mine, I would immediately send him to freezer camp... like yesterday. NOT worth the risk. Good luck.
Posts like this make me want to disregard any posts regarding the dangers of bulls. It's soooooo melodramatic. I get that people on this forum are not bull people, but we must remember that even for those who AI, bulls are necessary to keep cattle herds going and somebody has got to own them.

I get that because cattle are big even the sweetest one can cause an unintentional injury but this post? Please. :rolleyes: This is almost as bad as the woman who believes that if she buys a pig, it will eat her. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That said, I don't know that I would necessarily trust a bull that I just bought unless I knew he had been loved his whole life. Like any adult animal, unless you know how they were treated growing up, even if you love on them, they do have the potential to turn on you.

You have a beautiful herd. I can't wait until the day I get mine. :D
Think what you may... but i have first hand experience with many breeds of beef and dairy bulls so I have to state the real world facts. My father was a Vet. that worked with dairies when keeping a bull was the norm before AI. He told us kids many a story of severly injured farmers and of THREE ( he saw one of his clients actually in the act of being killed in the bull pen being tossed like a rag doll, my dad tried to help but that farmer was already dead) that were KILLED during the 1950's decade in the 1 county in Cal. that he worked. Yes, bulls need to be kept in the AI age. However, bulls are kept and cared for by professional bull handlers in very secure envronments and as safe as possible working conditions. NO amatures anywhere near.
 
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