goat and a dog?

[whetzelmomma]

I have an LGD that I'm still training... (she's still got some puppy drive and the one goat that doesn't like dogs runs, and she thinks it's playing... and chases it, which makes the goat run MORE... you see where this is headed...) so I chain the dog in the daytime, so that she can't chase, and at night, I lock the goats in the barn, and the dog patrols the pen and detours predators. It seems to be working pretty well so far.

 

[flemish lops]

I wounder what would happen if some one would tie the goat up instead of the dog. That way the goat wouldn't be able to run away and make the dog chase after it. Does anyone have there goats on a chain instead of a fence?

 

[elevan]

I wounder what would happen if some one would tie the goat up instead of the dog. That way the goat wouldn't be able to run away and make the dog chase after it. Does anyone have there goats on a chain instead of a fence?

Thethering goats is a bad idea on multiple levels.

I believe that there are several threads on here that talk about the subject if you want to do a search.

 

[whetzelmomma]

I wonder what would happen if some one would tie the goat up instead of the dog. That way the goat wouldn't be able to run away and make the dog chase after it. Does anyone have there goats on a chain instead of a fence?

Goats on leads is not a fun thing. Especially when you are talking about tethering a whole herd. That's pretty much logistically impossible. Not to mention, unless you have lucked out and all of your goats are leash trained, you're looking at a panic attack from every goat not used to being tethered. It's much easier to tether your dog. If you read any of the books available on how to train an LDG, they all speak about how to manage your DOG'S behavior and not the animals that they will be living with. When my dog is tethered, the goats that are scared of her are able to come up and get close to her, and she knows she can't run, so she doesn't over react when they startle near her. It sets the stage for calm interaction with them that will eventually lead to my dog not having to be tethered at all with them. Since my main concern for my goat's safety is during the night when most of our predators are out, it works well for the interaction of the herd with my dog, and also for her to patrol freely at night while the goats are safely locked away from her.

 

[flemish lops]

I guess I should have said that we were only planing on buying one goat (not a whole herd lol) and then we were going to sell it when it gets older. We are only planning on raising it for a pet/mabey 4-h and would probably sell it before winter.

 

[savingdogs]

you need at least one other, goats don't do well alone.

 

[whetzelmomma]

Goats are herd animals. Living with other animals isn't enough for them. You should have two at the least.

 

[laughingdog]

now im wanting another goat for mine even more! i have two dogs currently, one over white tri color, rough collie. one german sheperd/sharpei. the collie obviously is a herding dog (though met alot of people who marvel that it doesnt even mouth the livestock, as most even pure bred dogs apparently kill or chase them constantly), while the huge mix is a guard dog (trained that way when got him). had a wheatan terrier who i found home for recent. anyway the collie took to the goat immediately when it was just put down next to him to watch him destroy it they thought, but i and guys with me, new my dog , better than the thought of him compared to their dogs that are just for show (mine is from show lines also though, but not vicious...). and since the collie will attack and tear up anything that threatens that kid. the others immediately learned when i brought it home and they went to rush to investigate and i grabbed by scruffs and flipped on backs and held there till everyone was calm, that it was now part of family and they know to protect family with lives. they clean and snuggle it play and allow it to play on them and nibble on them, unless i say otherwise. its a dog, if you cannot control it (without beating, just to clarify as some think only way to train), you probly need to not have a dog, or learn how to control it. i leave my goat out with dogs alone in house, and only trouble is that now the dogs are hyper vigilant and act like theyll attack anything that even scares the goat
as mantainance men found out when they started tools right by were goat felt cornered and made it start bleating from fear, and had three dogs instantly turn from attention wanting dufuses to glaring snarling nannies pushing the goat into safe spot and guys out of room. so just immediately take control and dont try to sooth or pet it telling to be good or nice and all that, as it confuses a dog, and try to think like military instructor. grab the dog if poking it doesnt work if it shows the slightest unwanted over enthusiasm curiosity, or dominance/aggression, and make it completely ignore it and not even allow to look at at first till they are both calm. then can start the petting and loving if must, when they are able to process it and it wont just excite them both more. the dog will learn it needs to respect and accept what you tell it to, and then will pick up to look out for whats yours.

 

[poorboys]

WE HAVE LGD, THEY ARE WITH THE GOATS 24-7, THE ONLY THING THE DOGS WON'T TOLERATE IS THE GOATS TRYING TO EAT THEIR FOOD, BUT ALL THEY DO IS SWAP THEIR FACE WITH THEIR PAW, JUST ENOUGH TO LET THEM KNOW TO GET OUT. BUT IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO HELP THEMSELVES TO THE GOATS FOOD. MY DOGS ARE ON ALERT ALL THE TIME, NEIGHBOR HAS HAD TROUBLE WITH COYOTES, AND THEY PASS RIGHT BY OUR PLACE. NOW I HAVE A BUYER FOR A PUP, AS FOR DOGS PASSING THRU OUR YARD, I WOULD HATE TO SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THEY GOT IN WITH THE GOATS AND DOGS??