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rjpcr

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i recently bought two nigerian does, one a first freshener and another, a 5 year old pregnant doe from a very nice goat family. after the kidding date came and passed , i had blood work done to determine her status. we did the cae tests at the same time (which came up negative), thank goodness for Bio-tracking! as it ends up the doe is not actually pregnant. the breeder has offered to breed her again for me. while that is a nice gesture i am wondering what everyone else thinks about the situation. i am sure that this is nothing more than an innocent mistake. i would have to travel 3 hours round trip to have them breed her again and my confidence in their breeding operation is a little tainted at this point.
 

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Obviously, by your own admission, you're less that confident in this farm's breeding practices. As you also said, this was probably an honest mistake and I have to agree. You don't mention if the cost of this doe was reflective of the fact that she was bred before buying her.

How badly do you want the bloodline of the buck they are offering? If your goats aren't papered, not show goats and just being used for milk or pets, it might be sensible to look locally for another buck to breed your doe. The cost would probably be offset by saving the three hour trip to the former farm.
If that's not an option, you may have to make the trip and use their buck.
 

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Three hours seems a bit much for a breeding, if you can find someone you like closer I would go with that.
 

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Normally what I see, is either confirmed pregnant or exposed to a buck. If it states, "sells exposed to a buck," then there is no gaurantee that she will be pregnant, unless they state that in their contract that they will rebreed her if she comes up open. They are more likely to gaurentee rebreeding if they sell her confirmed pregnant, but again it all depends on the contract and what you all talked about before buying her. Just because she is confirmed pregnant doesn't mean she will carry to term or that she is gauranteed to have live babies.
 

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Selling bred is just that, bred. There is not guarentee it took or she will carry to term. This may or may not reflect on thier breeding program. Does go open all the time even on the best of farms. It may even have something to do with your managment. I would not judge the breeding program based on this one instance.

I wouldn't drive three hours for a breeding unless I REALLY wanted the bloodlines. Under most circumstances it will be two trips, one to drop her off and one to pick her up.
 

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jodief100 said:
Selling bred is just that, bred. There is not guarentee it took or she will carry to term. This may or may not reflect on thier breeding program. Does go open all the time even on the best of farms. It may even have something to do with your managment. I would not judge the breeding program based on this one instance.
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Goatherd said:
Obviously, by your own admission, you're less that confident in this farm's breeding practices. As you also said, this was probably an honest mistake and I have to agree. You don't mention if the cost of this doe was reflective of the fact that she was bred before buying her.

How badly do you want the bloodline of the buck they are offering? If your goats aren't papered, not show goats and just being used for milk or pets, it might be sensible to look locally for another buck to breed your doe. The cost would probably be offset by saving the three hour trip to the former farm.
If that's not an option, you may have to make the trip and use their buck.
hey thanks, i appreciate your perspective. these does are ndga and ags registered so i would prefer to breed them to a ngda or ags sire. however, i am open to what may come along in the interim. im in louisville , ky area and would like to make some contacts in this area before i proceed. the disappointing thing about the whole situation is that i allowed the doe to dry up... and since the first freshener was producing so little i let her dry up as well to give her a psychological break. so now i have two nigerians plus a fresh alpine doe that need to be bred.
 

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thanks to all that posted on this issue. i appreciate your wisdom and the varying perspectives.
 
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