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BriteChicken

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This is very educational for a lurker beginner like me to get a list of everything needed so thanks for the info and keep it flowing! ;)
 

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ksalvagno said:
Actually, you need both 3cc and 6cc. Probably more 3cc than 6cc though.
Not around here.. I keep teenie 1ml's and 6ml's.. My experience has been that goat-dosages of most things are high enough to warrant only keeping the 6ml's.

That's here, though...ymmv. :)

(I rarely use the 1ml's, either, but I keep a few in case I have to do something reeeeeeeeeeeally precisely. Like, giving 0.1ml of Rompun [which was already diluted to 10% strength] to a 40lb kid, as I had to do once. That 0.1ml was enough to have him stumbling and drooling...another 0.1ml probably would have killed him.)
 

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Ok, I'm trying to work thru this list and both get these supplies and simultaneously figure out what I would do with them. So, I'm get 3 ml and 6ml syringes; but on the activated charcoal, are we talking this kind of product (it's from the Jeffers site):

Activated Charcoal Gel with Electrolytes

(Kaeco) Contains activated hardwood charcoal, Attalugites and certain electrolytes to use as an emergency first aid treatment for accidental poisoning. For dogs and cats, give 1-3 ml per 1 lb of body weight. For sheep and goats, give 1-3 ml per 2.2 lbs of body weight. Adult cattle and horses, give 300 ml and repeat as needed.
NOTE: This 300 mL tube requires an applicator gun (Item #PN-P3). :/
 

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ksalvagno said:
CM, I buy BOXES of 1cc, 3cc, 6cc, 12cc and 60cc and go through them all. :p
Same here. 100 count boxes from Jeffers. Keep in mind my biggest goat is just south of 170 lbs.

3cc handle the vaccines. I usually need 6cc for LA-200 or PenG and B-12. I use the 12 occasionaly for B-12 and wormers.

The 12cc or even 24cc I use for giving an injectable orally. I attach a needle to the lure lock syringe, then remove the needle and drench the goat directly from the syringe. Bigger is better for these so I get waaaaaaaaaay down the throat.

I even have little 0.3cc syringes for when I need something very precise. Admittedly, the only reason I do is because they are insulin syringes for my cat. I wouldn't buy them just for goats but they do come in handy on rare occasions.

Syringes are cheap and don't go bad. No reason not to stock a bunch of sizes. You never know what your goat is going to get into. I did multiple shots of the same stuff too many times before I got smart and just kept a bunch of sizes on hand.

I think CM (who has goat pharmacy Walgreens would envy) can agree with me that it is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
 

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BetterHensandGardens said:
Ok, I'm trying to work thru this list and both get these supplies and simultaneously figure out what I would do with them. So, I'm get 3 ml and 6ml syringes; but on the activated charcoal, are we talking this kind of product (it's from the Jeffers site):

Activated Charcoal Gel with Electrolytes

(Kaeco) Contains activated hardwood charcoal, Attalugites and certain electrolytes to use as an emergency first aid treatment for accidental poisoning. For dogs and cats, give 1-3 ml per 1 lb of body weight. For sheep and goats, give 1-3 ml per 2.2 lbs of body weight. Adult cattle and horses, give 300 ml and repeat as needed.
NOTE: This 300 mL tube requires an applicator gun (Item #PN-P3). :/
YES

It doesn't matter how well you plan, there is something you will need in a hurry at some point. And there will be things you buy and NEVER use.
 

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jodief100 said:
ksalvagno said:
CM, I buy BOXES of 1cc, 3cc, 6cc, 12cc and 60cc and go through them all. :p
Same here. 100 count boxes from Jeffers. Keep in mind my biggest goat is just south of 170 lbs.

3cc handle the vaccines. I usually need 6cc for LA-200 or PenG and B-12. I use the 12 occasionaly for B-12 and wormers.

The 12cc or even 24cc I use for giving an injectable orally. I attach a needle to the lure lock syringe, then remove the needle and drench the goat directly from the syringe. Bigger is better for these so I get waaaaaaaaaay down the throat.
I buy boxes, too.. I just started my 2nd box of 100 since our kids were born this year..

Thing is...the 6ml's are only $2 more/box than the 3mls. Yeah, $2 is $2, but that's another big spot I gotta find in my already-cramped goat med cabinet. I'd literally rather waste the $.02/syringe and give 2ml of vax in a 6ml syringe than have to maintain two seperate boxes.

So, that's my excuse on the 3ml's. :p

As for 12ml+, I keep a few sterile ones handy just in case they're needed for some kind of an injection. I never, ever use those for oral meds, though.. I have a drench syringe specifically for stuff like that and I've only VERY OCCASIONALLY had to give more than 6ml of an injectable to a single goat as an oral dose.

Usually, big oral doses are oral formulations...Safe Guard, for instance. Honest-to-goodness drench syringes are a thing of beauty for stuff like that. :D

I think CM (who has goat pharmacy Walgreens would envy) can agree with me that it is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Yep...much better. :thumbsup

But, for the record, I've never looked at a 6ml syringe and thought "DAMN YOU, SYRINGE!! IF ONLY YOU WERE A 3ML!".. :lol: :p
 

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BetterHensandGardens said:
Activated Charcoal Gel with Electrolytes

(Kaeco) Contains activated hardwood charcoal, Attalugites and certain electrolytes to use as an emergency first aid treatment for accidental poisoning. For dogs and cats, give 1-3 ml per 1 lb of body weight. For sheep and goats, give 1-3 ml per 2.2 lbs of body weight. Adult cattle and horses, give 300 ml and repeat as needed.
NOTE: This 300 mL tube requires an applicator gun (Item #PN-P3). :/
Yeppers...that'll work.

The stuff I got is from Jeffers, and it's called "universal animal antidote gel". Says it contains "activated hardwood charcoal and thermally activated attapulgite clay in an aqueous gel suspension."

Same stuff, and same listed dosage, too. :)

If ever I have to use it, the dosage I use isn't likely to be measured in MLs, though....more like wads, or perhaps gobs. :lol:
 

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I am SO thankful for this thread!! I am going to be getting goats, and I have been researching for sometime, but to see a list of supplies from experienced goat people... :celebrate Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
 
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