Good Goat gone bad ???? I'm new to this.

[mistee]

also,,, if he ends up hurting someone you will be responsible!!

crazy as it sounds,,, I have a friend who had a pit bull.. A guy broke into his house one time,, the dog bit him bad enough that he needed stitches.. the guy took him to court and won.. i dont get it!!!!!!

My kids get upset cause I wont let them in the buck pen but I dont want to take a chance..... I saw a man one time at an auction get gored pretty bad by a big buck,, the guy deserved it in my opinion w/ the way he was prodding adn whipping the goat..

 

[Theykeepmebusy]

I have been reading on websites about his behavior and I guess next I would like to know how old is too old to get him "fixed" and will it change him. I can't get rid of him, I would never hear the end of it .
I went out this morning and over his fence I visit him, I connected a leash to him and he did great walking up and down the perimeter, I went in the chickens side, he is now separated from them ,and I walked him some more, he liked the walk ? Made none of those actions towards me, so I take the leash off, we are separated by electric fencing, and as soon as he hears the click, he starts his "bad" behavior.
I understand he is going to be way to much for me to handle and this is his nature and I can't change it. I kind of wonder if they were given to me because he was getting hard to handle, from what I understand, they were both kept together in a dog kennel and a dog house and that they had started to tear it up. I thought maybe, before finding this site and reading on others, that it was because now he had room to roam , I kind of hoped it was the reason. So now I'm on to next, is there an age to old to get him fixed, who/where can I take him to do this, or I need someone to come out here to do the job, lol. Is it painful, will I have to do some doctoring afterwards ?
What have I gotten myself into?????

 

[patandchickens]

Bear in mind that even if you were to castrate him to keep the problem from getting worse, it is not likely to get *better* without some sincere long-term retraining (and even then, no guarantees).

Pat, who learned last weekend that a ram can still butt you real hard if you are standing back by his hip, just whip round and wham you with the side of his horns. And this really *is* a very well-behaved, respectful, userfriendly ram.

 

[Theykeepmebusy]

Are you serious??!!!! What is the reason we have our dogs in our homes and on our property????? I have 2 pit bulls, they've never hurt anyone, they roam outside, but people won't just open my gates and walk in with them.
My weenie dog is the biter. I can't believe people can sue and they are the ones who broke in!!!!!!

 

[Theykeepmebusy]

And I guess if I keep him in his own pen, he won't be happy. I can make him his own area, with plenty of room to roam and keep kids and friends out. Right now he won't cross over the electric wires keeping him separate from the chickens, the doe she will prance right over them, he, I don't know if this is normal, gets stuck on a tree branch, won't jump over it, I had to remove the branch because he won't get off of it, a friend and I would have to go out there and pick his back end up to get him un-stuck, he doesn't know how to jump? But I do have the resources to make him his own area, will he be happy ?

 

[jodief100]

Are you serious??!!!! What is the reason we have our dogs in our homes and on our property????? I have 2 pit bulls, they've never hurt anyone, they roam outside, but people won't just open my gates and walk in with them.
My weenie dog is the biter. I can't believe people can sue and they are the ones who broke in!!!!!!

The laws on this vary from state to state. If your state has what it commonly called "The Castle Doctirine" you will be fine. It specifically states that you have the right to defend your home, with lethal force (gun or guard dog) if necessary. States without it usually require you to "attempt to flee" before using force.

I know OH, KY and FL have the Castle Doctrine. I think AZ and TX do and CA does not.

FYI: Anyone can sue for anything; the burden of proof in civil cases is much different than criminal cases. You just have to get a jury to agree the other person owns you.

As far as the buck, you can always get him wethered, age just alters the methods available to you. He will do better with company. At least he can be with his doe friend if he is wethered. Since he walked nice with you I think there is a good chance you can get him under control if you wether him. Right now he is being controlled by his hormones. Time and training is what it will take. No guarantees.

I never go in the buck pen during rut without a big stick. I have one who will be sweet as pie until you turn your back and then he rams you from behind.

 

[Theykeepmebusy]

Thank you everyone, I am now going to search how to get him wethered, I am not seeing me doing this myself, I appreciate everyone's advice and I will give warning I'll be back. As my son would say, I'm a noob.

 

[Calliopia]

My buck is a sweet angel until those hormones start going. Then I don't go in unless I HAVE to and I have a flat shovel to bap him on the head with and my husband is standing outside the fence.

 

[mistee]

I would just call a vet and have them come out and do it.. in the long run he will have a better life for it and since he is still young you should be able to get him to change his way,,lol..

Maybe w/ the hormones out of the way he will once again be a sweetie!!

 

[LollingontheFarm]

I've had a 3 yr old pymgy buck since birth. Max was always friendly never aggressive until recently. Only ME! Yesterday he had my penned to the fence and was into butting me over and over until my son heard me screaming for help. The only thing I could do was cling to the fence post so he couldn't bring me down!
The does are all bred (out of rut). Any ideas why he turned on me in particular?