Grass Fed Beef Profits

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you google places in Montana and sit there and try to tell me about how we are stuck in our ways saying we are not willing to try things.

Ok what was the lesson in the Dirty Thirties? Do you know the lessons taught then? I do from all the stories from my in laws.
Did you know a neighbor south of us was the first farmer in Montana who started farming in strips instead of large blocks? we learned from him. We still do the strips while so many have jumped on a band wagon of chem fallow no til. No fire breaks either. We cut a wheat crop in 2001 in a terrible drought when the chem fallow guys had nothing to cut.
Hmmm, what do you know it works here.

Why in the world would I want to read some guys book on raising cattle? I just gotta talk to the other people around here to discus different ideas and suggestions. Is this guy out here? Nope. Is he raising cattle out here? Nope.
As for Montana being the "paradise" of long ago take another look. Look up Charlie Russel and take a look at his work, "Last of Ten Thousand."
The range was overgrazed and the mild winters lead the cattlemen into believing they had no need to put up hay. Then the winter of 1886-1887 hit.
Look up the Grant Kohrs ranch. One of those guys quit after this winter saying he will never have an animal that he could not care for again.
they also discovered the Texas longhorns are not winter hardy enough to survive a winter without hay.

I think it is so funny that you are praising this guy and I cannot count on both hands ranchers that have been doing what you discribed for years.

By the way you have no idea of what we have tried or done in the raising and maintaining our land and cattle. So don't preach to me.
 

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herfrds said:
If you think those guys did not feed their cattle HAY then you are not as informed as you think you are.

Cows cannot dig grass out of 3 feet of snow. Horses can though.

Definition Grass Finished Beef since you like to google.

http://www.beefboard.org/news/files/factsheets/Grass-finished-Beef.pdf
Sweety....hay IS grass. ;) When we term a farm or cattle grassfed we mean strictly fed on pasture and hay~dried and stored grass~ without supplemental grain.

Your post was so disjointed it was hard to understand just what you were trying to convey. No one has been trying to tell you how to raise cattle in Montana...we are just trying to state that, until you have tried it you cannot say with assurity that it will not work in your area~or the OP's area, for that matter.

Men come from all over the world to study Salatin's farming methods...yes, from each state and from many other continents. He has a waiting list for people who want to intern on his place and the local colleges give college credits for students who work his farm. He has sold millions of books on the subject and his books continue to sell. He is paid to give talks on it all over the US and Canada and his private tours of his own farm are booked far in advance~and they are expensive, I can tell you.

I'm not trying to stroke the man's ego, it's big enough to fill half of Texas already. I'm just saying that the grassfed beef industry is here to stay and is a rising star. If someone wishes to ask questions or post about it here they should be allowed to discuss it without people immediately telling them it just won't work. It does indeed work in many areas of the US and the world and it bears discussion on this forum.

You don't have to like it or agree with it but at least let a beginner ask questions about it before you inform them that it just won't work.
 

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Must admit that I had never heard of this guy until a couple of months back - was told about him from a customer. I'm just doing what my dad did back in England and am keen to avoid any gm crop going into my animals - just a personal choice
 

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Royd, your cattle look great!! And your grass is lovely. Whatever you are doing, it must be right! :)
 

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I'm not your sweety so keep that crappy type of comments to yourself.

Read the definition again. raised strictly on grass, not HAY! Duh!
Hay is a dry grass that is put up for feed during the winter.

You want to talk disjointed you came across as a know it all for all the land types here in the US.
 
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