Green Acres Farm - LA

[Green Acres Farm]

Oh man I have welded wire fencing and it is terrible! My wether, who is giant (by my standards) destroys it. It's OK for the girls for now, but my wether and buckling are back in their little cattle panel pen until I can splurge for the good stuff! And the chickens are about to inherit about 3 rolls of fencing... Ugh.

When we first got goats we were told to get 2×4 inch fencing.

We went to TSC and bought a bunch of welded wire, not even knowing what welded wire was and why we shouldnt buy it.

It worked fine for awhile.

But then...

The the bucks went into rut...

Ripped it right up with their horns and bred ALL our 8 month old does!




They all ended up kidding fine, thankfully, without any difficulties!

What a waste of fence, though!

 

[NH homesteader]

Gah! How awful is that? Glad everyone did OK. I wish I had known beforehand. Fortunately our does aren't too hard on it and the boys are secure!

 

[Southern by choice]

No, she wanted him in the cage and not out because she said he would run away. I checked when we got home.
After I saw them, I called her and told her and she said she thought they looked a little pale (they could not be any paler than white!), but she said she wormed him with her dewormer that she said killed EVERYTHING, so there was NO reason to worry!

She really needs to get some fecals done on her herd and find out how well it is really working.

I was disappointed because on her site it says:

"All kids will come with ADGA applications for registration unless otherwise noted.
All kids will have been dewormed, received CDT, Bovi Sera, will be Disbudded and Tattooed.
To purchase any kid, please send a deposit of $50 for bucklings, $100 for doelings each."

I asked her about the Bovi Sera and she actually doesn't give it. Kicks was dewormed several months ago, not recently. I hope they are tattooed, I haven't checked, yet.

But, even if I did know that he was anemic, we couldn't just leave as we drove over 2 hours to get there and had already paid a $300 nonrefundable deposit.

I can understand being disappointed.
I am glad however, that you are giving the benefit of the doubt.
You will learn from this and so will the breeder.
Prohibit is pretty potent. The issue is the anemia they already have AND the bloom they will more than likely have.

Breeders will have different levels of knowledge and different focus. I know a person that had been raising and breeding goats for about 4 years before learning anything other then eyelid checks. All was fine til that 4 th year and then had sick and dying kids.

Prior to that there was no educating the clients other then what to feed.

On the flip side- I know others, that do what we do, educate spend time do a class, have the potential owners visit FIRST etc... and are very detailed. Then you have the client not follow through on even the most basic of things. One friend said she spend phone time, client visited, spent 2 hours detailing everything... explaining fecals, cocci etc and WHY it was so important to run the fecal 4-7 days after getting the kids home. She stressed this at least 3 times and has it in the written paperwork. Meanwhile the breeder had vet run fecals and had results.
Lady picked up the goats 2 weeks later. Again reminder.
When my friend called to see how th e goats were adjusting and if the fecals had been run the lady didn't have them run.


She stressed to her again the importance. Lady said "they look fine and they are happy".


My friend was just beside herself. She bottle fed those kids, raised them, took great care, did their shots, preventions etc... but mostly she loved them and to turn them over to someone that would just so blatantly disregard the advice ESPECIALLY someone that never had goats before... it just was devastating.

The sad thing is if those kids do end up with a bloom of some kind and the newbie doesn't know what is happening and those goats get sick or die I can guarantee you she'll blame the breeder.

I see this all the time.

I am very glad you have gained the knowledge you need to be able to care for the goats! It is good that you let the breeder know, and not condemn, we all learn. She may not even be aware that some kids are anemic.

We always call and let the breeder know what we find as a courtesy. It is usually very encouraging to them when you call and say hey I just ran the fecal and there is nothing!

I run them the day they come in and again a week later. So I can see how much of a bloom. We also do another at 30 days before they leave quarantine.

 

[Southern by choice]

I am confused... are you looking at this buckling?
Or a doe out of the breeding?
What do you mean by AG?

 

[Southern by choice]

Honestly I would go with what the breeder suggest for you.
Which two pairs are you looking?

 

[NH homesteader]

I think Southern is saying talk to the breeder and ask which would better complement the bucklings you have and what your particular farm goals are. It's the same breeder right?

 

[Green Acres Farm]

It's the same breeder right?

Yes

 

[Southern by choice]

Is this where you got Armani and Kicks?

Sorry, I must not be being clear.

No, it isn't you... it is more likely me.
I just want to be clear.

Also I am doing 4 things at once 3 on computer and 1 on phone and house stuff. My brain gets fried.

 

[animalmom]

Well... since you asked, I'm drawn to the second possibility basically because the doe is polled. I like polled goats and since the buck isn't polled you know any kids born polled would be heterogeneous. See I don't do well disbudding my wee kids and being hetero polled is a big plus.

 

[Hens and Roos]

nice looking udders on the above pictures!