HELP GAGGING MALE GOAT!! **SAD UPDATE**

[SuburbanFarmChic]

He may be having issues getting his cud up. If he was choking on something, in my experience it would be constant coughing/retching. And when they are choking BAD, there is an amazing amount of clear mucus that is produced to help clear out what ever they just inhaled.

The prolapse will need to be evaluated by the vet. Has to be. Right now you are seeing it because he is straining his abdominal muscles to get up what ever he's trying to get up. One of our pigs did this a year ago when she was wrestling with another sow. She pushed her stomach muscles too much and POP, out it came. With a mix of hemorrhoid cream and aloe we got it to go back in and I guess it formed enough adhesions because we've never seen it again, even during labor.

I haven't seen the goat, I can't absolutely tell you what to do and other people very well may have better advice.


To me, it sounds like a cud issue. I would get him to a vet so they can tube him and possibly remove what ever is causing him to heave. Goats do throw up their cud on occasion. If he is not doing the choking mucus thing and is having breathing/resting spells in between episodes I don't THINK it is immediately life threatening. But he does need to be seen to resolve it. I'd keep trying vets. Tomorrow morning is probably soon enough. I'd keep him comfortable. I'd not try putting much in his mouth/down his throat. Too great of a risk of actually choking him.


Anybody else have any suggestions?

 

[MrsDieselEngineer]

I would encourage him to drink warm molasses water, and I'd remove all food for the present. You can get Banamine as a paste as well as an injectable. Both work well.

I've never dealt with a prolapse before so can't help with that. Hopefully you can get a vet out there soon.

 

[SmallFarmGirl]

My doe coughs when she gets her cud up. I thought this was normal. Should I be worried too ???

 

[WhiteWaterFarms]

Well, no vet never showed up....i told our vet she wouldn't come.....we can't get banamine, no friend or friends of friends have any. So we've gave him a aspirin (dissolved in water in a oral syringe) and put some hemorrhoid cream on the prolapse. I think he chewed something(like the wood on the barn walls) and got a piece suck in his cud or something. If he makes it through the night we off to the vet in the morning. (Now to problem is finding something to put him in, to get him the 30 or 40 min drive to the vet(and that's our nearest vet ))

SmallFarmGirl: I think they mean is coughing up the cud is fine. I worried about that when i first got my cashmere, it's normal (someone correct me if i'm wrong)
What's not good is when they can't get the cud up....like my bolt i guess.

I just love that when you need them the vets are nowhere to be found

 

[zzGypsy]

not much else I can offer tonight - when you get to your vet tomorrow see if they've got a partial bottle of banamine you can buy and have on hand. our vet says don't use the paste because most of the drug doesn't survive the rumen to get in their system, we use injectable only. you can get syringes at most feed stores or online at the vet supply places. shot goes subQ, not IM. can be given IV I think, if you know how... check with your vet.

good luck!

 

[SuburbanFarmChic]

Many goats make a bit of a coughing noise when getting up their cud to chew it. It sounds like this guy may have swallowed something he shouldn't and is having issues getting it up.


I hope he makes it. Best of luck to you and keep us posted about the vet. Ours is a 30 min drive as well. I have honestly just tarped the back of my van before and bungeed a baby gate to the back of the front seats to avoid helpful front seat driver goats coming up for a visit. Once you are moving, they mostly lay down and chill out.

 

[zzGypsy]

Many goats make a bit of a coughing noise when getting up their cud to chew it. It sounds like this guy may have swallowed something he shouldn't and is having issues getting it up.


I hope he makes it. Best of luck to you and keep us posted about the vet. Ours is a 30 min drive as well. I have honestly just tarped the back of my van before and bungeed a baby gate to the back of the front seats to avoid helpful front seat driver goats coming up for a visit. Once you are moving, they mostly lay down and chill out.

I've done this too, but with a buck I worry about the windows...

 

[SuburbanFarmChic]

Transported a nearly 200lb full grown Nubian buck in the back of my van for about 3 hours one way when I picked him up. If you are worried about him smashing windows then leash him to the seat so he can't reach them.

 

[WhiteWaterFarms]

Ok, a little update.
Checked on bolt, i think he is like our little rooster that got held under the water by our dog and drowned but came back to life....i think bolt has 9 lives....He's still alive and the prolapse is smaller and i think he's stopped gagging!! I gave him more aspirin and 40 cc's of molasses water.

We have a truck but it's out of gas(need the money for the vet), so it'll be a Nissan altama, I was thinking a tarp or plastic and leashing him to the baby seat holders. Didn't think about the baby gate thing. (thank god we have a baby gate from the dogs)
Yeah,i will be getting some banamine, we will do shots bolt's hard to get paste or anything. we have syringes, and 22G x 1" needles. (from when one of the chicken got sick.)

 

[autumnprairie]

Ok, a little update.
Checked on bolt, i think he is like our little rooster that got held under the water by our dog and drowned but came back to life....i think bolt has 9 lives....He's still alive and the prolapse is smaller and i think he's stopped gagging!! I gave him more aspirin and 40 cc's of molasses water.

We have a truck but it's out of gas(need the money for the vet), so it'll be a Nissan altama, I was thinking a tarp or plastic and leashing him to the baby seat holders. Didn't think about the baby gate thing. (thank god we have a baby gate from the dogs)
Yeah,i will be getting some banato get the med mine, we will do shots bolt's hard to get paste or anything. we have syringes, and 22G x 1" needles. (from when one of the chicken got sick.)

I always use another needle to get the med and another to adminster it. ( so it is a sharp needle)

Good luck I am rooting for you and Bolt