HELP!! Kid with a lump... is it CL?

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Another thing... when flushing an abscess do I put the tip of the syringe inside the abscess or just flush around the outside? If I keep poking in the abscess how does it ever heal?
 

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You don't want it to heal w/ any pus left in it, or it WILL just rupture again. Poke that syringe in there and wiggle it around. Squeeze to make sure you get all the 'juice' and any pus back out. I usually do that for 3-4 times after lancing, and then let it heal.

That picture shows it a little clearer...and that *could* be a CL location. In the other pictures I didn't see it, I'm sorry.
 

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Roll farms said:
That picture shows it a little clearer...and that *could* be a CL location. In the other pictures I didn't see it, I'm sorry.
:( Yep, that photo shows it in a different light. Still, wait for test results before you panic, and get ready to send off blood on the others.
 

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These are our first goats and we sure got some really bad luck with them. We just don't know what to do with her. How could she get it at such a young age? Could her mama have passed it on to her? If so and it is CL it is most likely her twin probably has it. Either way the first step in our plan is to see if she is positive for CL and if so everyone is going to be tested. If everyone comes up positive I just don't know what we are going to do. :idunno it is hard to think of putting them all down if they come back positive because it is not a disease that would kill them like cancer or anything. It is just a disease that would cost me a lot of money and be difficult to deal with. I just don't see the act of putting them down being justified because of my selfishness of not wanting to step up to the plate when my pet ownership gets hard. What would any of you do in my position? We bought these animals as pets, if they were just livestock in the field everything might be different.
 

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It is completely manageable in pets...and it's not terrible expensive, either. When we have one ready to burst, we lance it, clean it, let it heal. Other than scalpels / iodine / peroxide / gloves, there's not extra cost. You can aslo buy the Case-bac vaccine from Jeffer's Supply and vaccinate your goats if you choose...it won't 'cure' those that have it, but I have had pretty good success w/ it containing the spread. However, any goats you vaccinate *will* test positive afterward, so test before you vaccinate.

The reason I regret choosing to keep my CL+ stock is b/c I breed / sell babies and it's a LOT of extra work for me, pulling kids and bottle raising them so that I can *guarantee* they'll be CL free.

Just b/c one kid caught it doesn't guarantee both will have it. And unless there's been a busted abscess on your place, the rest *should* be clean. It may or may not have caught it from the dam (if it is CL...), any goat w/ an open abscess can pass it to any animal w/ an open wound.

*IF* they do have it, and one gets an internal abscess, or so I am told...it can kill them. As far as I know, that hasn't happened here.
 

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Well first round of flushing and penicillin didn't go so well. Only got maybe half the penicillin dose in her. Any advice on where the easiest spot is to give the shot? We flushed the abscess but the only thing that came out was our clear fluid... is that a good sign that maybe most drainage came out yesterday when the vet lanced it? The lump is still there and hard though. What does that mean?
 

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It takes a while for the lump to go down.
Did you really squish the stuff around and then squeeze it out, or just squirt it in and let it run out on it's own?
I give Pen G in the muscle of the butt cheek...others say not to.
 

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Roll farms said:
It takes a while for the lump to go down.
Did you really squish the stuff around and then squeeze it out, or just squirt it in and let it run out on it's own?
I give Pen G in the muscle of the butt cheek...others say not to.
There was nothing to squish around, the lump is just solid, we just squirted it in and let it run back out, tried rubing around the lump to get puss to come out, but got nothing except for the clear fluid.

The vet put SQ directions on the bottle but I did notice the the bottle label says to give IM.

I am just SO confused...
 

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Update...... got the titer back and it is not CL :celebrate. Doc says probably just strep or a staf infection and the lump is probably a swollen lymph.
 
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