Hens and Roos
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sorry to hear this 
HELP! Pics included..
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babsbag
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So sorry it was positive, I was hoping for the better outcome. Depending on your goals for your herd and showing/selling etc. you can keep CL positive goats and some of them may never get an abscess. I know it makes it next to impossible to sell kids but if you pull the kids and bottle raise them and the does have no active abscess at the time you can have CL negative kids.
Did the abscess break open on your land? Hope not as this will make it so much easier to control.
It is devastating, but it is also manageable. There is a vaccine as well that you might consider.
Did the abscess break open on your land? Hope not as this will make it so much easier to control.
It is devastating, but it is also manageable. There is a vaccine as well that you might consider.
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Goat Whisperer
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I know this is common for boer breeders to use. Don't know anyone that uses it in dairy goats
I believe it will cause a blood test to come back positive so I would at least get everyone tested and if you have any that are negative retest them in a few months.
babsbag
Herd Master
It is true that it will cause the blood test to come back positive. I have been told that subsequent tests will show lower titers; don't know if that is true as I have no experience. My vet had a vaccine made for her herd years ago, I think all those goats are gone now, but they were dairy goats; but I see it more in meat goat herds. I think that is because many of the meat goats are terminal animals so having a positive CL test is no big deal as they won't be around past a year to begin with so they never get tested, but having an abscess can ruin a carcass.
Mike CHS
Herd Master
I'm sorry this happened
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fiset94
Chillin' with the herd
Well... as much as I enjoy being right... I wish that I was wrong in this situation.
My hunch was that the other doe that was breed with the positive one had CL. .... Well blood work shows that she is a very high 236!... def. positive. and to make matters worse she is pregnant. sigh.
I had my two other does blood tested and 4 babies ( 6 weeks old) the mom and the babies were negative!- yeah for that!
But the other female had a score of 16- thus positive.
I am considering asking the buck breeder to take the two positive does for me- and wait until the one delivers and pull the babies and I will bottle feed them.
I am so sad that it has come to this.
Michele
My hunch was that the other doe that was breed with the positive one had CL. .... Well blood work shows that she is a very high 236!... def. positive. and to make matters worse she is pregnant. sigh.
I had my two other does blood tested and 4 babies ( 6 weeks old) the mom and the babies were negative!- yeah for that!
But the other female had a score of 16- thus positive.
I am considering asking the buck breeder to take the two positive does for me- and wait until the one delivers and pull the babies and I will bottle feed them.
I am so sad that it has come to this.
Michele
Goat Whisperer
Herd Master
babsbag
Herd Master
Have you ever had an abscess break on your property? Was the doe that was 16 at the breeders as well? If not, any guesses as to where she got it? The most likely mode of transmission among herd mates is an abscess.
I attached a newsletter from UC Davis that has an article in it about CL. According to them a titer of 16 can be seen in positive and negative goats. I personally have 2 goats with titers above 8. One is at 16 and one was at 32 one time and 16 the next; neither have had an abscess or kids that test positive. It has been this way for 6 years now.
Hope you can get the breeder to take her and get her kids.
I attached a newsletter from UC Davis that has an article in it about CL. According to them a titer of 16 can be seen in positive and negative goats. I personally have 2 goats with titers above 8. One is at 16 and one was at 32 one time and 16 the next; neither have had an abscess or kids that test positive. It has been this way for 6 years now.
Hope you can get the breeder to take her and get her kids.
So sorry that you're having to deal with this. What a nightmare... I hope that your land/property wasn't contaminated and you can get rid of the infected animals before that happens. Wishing you well.
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fiset94
Chillin' with the herd
I have never CL on my property before... and the doe in alcatraz didn't have a leaking abscess when I put in in the stall away from the others. The 2nd doe that was breed with her... I JUST noticed a marble size bump under her jaw 3 days ago.. so again nothing leaking.
I am so stumped as to how the third Doe got infected.... She does not have any lumps and was not sent out to be bred.
Are you thinking that she is neg. but testing positive for some reason?
The breeder agreed to let me have the preg. one kid on her farm and remove the babies to be bottled fed. I am just so nervous to keep the 16 goat on my property...even though she does not have any abscess... I just don't want to loose my last goat to CL. ( I only had 4 adult females)
Another question.... I purchased the CL vaccine and plan to give it to the one CL neg. adult.. What is the dosage on that for her.... and her babies aren't 3 months of age yet.. do you know if it is safe to give it to them as well?
I am so stumped as to how the third Doe got infected.... She does not have any lumps and was not sent out to be bred.
Are you thinking that she is neg. but testing positive for some reason?
The breeder agreed to let me have the preg. one kid on her farm and remove the babies to be bottled fed. I am just so nervous to keep the 16 goat on my property...even though she does not have any abscess... I just don't want to loose my last goat to CL. ( I only had 4 adult females)
Another question.... I purchased the CL vaccine and plan to give it to the one CL neg. adult.. What is the dosage on that for her.... and her babies aren't 3 months of age yet.. do you know if it is safe to give it to them as well?
