Herbal Treatment of Johne's

[AlaskanShepherdess]

I already sprout their grain which currently is only barley in either raw acv or kombucha vinegar. I give them 1 tbs of either raw ACV or kombucha vinegar every day.

I'm definitely testing them before I do anything drastic, but giving them garlic and extra kelp certainly wont hurt anything.

 

[cowgirlnit4christ]

I know this is an old post, but any updates??? I have a Johnes doe, all the others in my herd are wethers for slaughter but if a cure is possible, or even a short relapse of symptoms, I would LOVE to know!!!!!!!

 

[Pearce Pastures]

Johnes can't be cured, maybe managed but not cured. An infected herd near us was recently put down. Not something you want spreading. They are still studying if Johnes may be related to human Crohn's disease.

 

[Alibo]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2565950/

Published in 2008 but I have not come across the article on this site before

 

[Jdsmichel]

I haven't tested yet. (still testing ASAP though through WADDL) But I'm pretty sure that what my bucks died of is Johne's. I thought it might be good to keep a "journal" of sorts online for people who may want to know how it goes.

But first I have a question for everyone, not just those inclined to natural treatments. Let's say my goats test positive for Johne's. I treat, retest and the tests come back negative. Would you buy from me? What about 5 years down the road, getting a negative each year? I always intend to be very honest with people concerning my goats. Even if it means that I won't sell as many, or may not be able to sell any at all. But I want to know what ya'll would do.



So entry number one in my journal December 29th 2010.

History of my goats. My goats were tested free of at least CAE and Johne's 2 years ago when the couple I bought them from bought them. They took them to their home (which hasn't seen animals other then cats and dogs for many years). A year later the couple was told that they could not keep the goats on their property because of the covenants. They decided to try keeping the goats, and just keeping them at a friends, who has a large cattle farm. That didn't work to well, the goats were neglected, so the couple decided to sell them. Enter us, complete newbies to goats. We buy them and bring them home. Bring them back into good health. Everything seems to be going fine except for the death of a very young doeling, which I now know was from a bacteria that has attacked the area.

One evening in early November my husband goes out to feed the goats for me at about 10pm. He comes running inside and informs me that one of my bucks is dying. We bring him into a slightly warmer shop and attempt to figure out what is wrong and treat it. An experienced goat friend calls and talks me through the next hour as he dies. His only symptoms were the fact that he was too weak to stand up, he was baaing like he might be in pain, and he was very emaciated. He had been eating entirely normal 24 hours before.

A couple days ago, we came home from housesitting to feed the goats, and immediately as I peer into the goat house, I can see my other buck on the floor of the goat house. Frozen and trampled (very small goat house, and he was in the doorway) and also very emaciated. He also had been eating entirely normal 24 hours before.

I came inside and googled "goat wasting disease". First thing that came up was Johne's, and the symptoms match.

To form my current approach to treating Johne's I read what Juliette De Bairacli Levy had to say in her book, The Complete Herbal Handbook for Farm and Stable. She says " All three (Tuberculosis, Johne's and Foot & Mouth) ailments are curable by internal cleansing with fasting and laxative diet, and abundant use of that supreme disinfectant herb, garlic; also moving to fresh pasture rich in vitality of of natural herbs and grasses. .... In Johne's: garlic and all the aromatics, such as thyme, sage, anise, and fennel."

I also gleaned a little tidbit online about minerals. Basically the website (and I forget now where it was) said to increase mineral supplementation and then retest. Deciding to cull or not based on the after results.

So far what I have done: I started adding to their grain garlic. I currently have them up to 1 clove per animal a day. I need to research more to find out how much garlic I should be giving them. So far they are eating it just fine. I started adding in rosehip powder to their grain, as it is an excellent immune system booster.

I also doubled how much kelp I give them. They were getting 1/2 oz a day, they now get 1 oz. I also started giving them a nutritional yeast supplement that is high in some of the missing minerals in the kelp.

If the tests come back positive I will get more "aggressive" with the treatment.

I'll keep reading and researching more, and I'll update as I test and then retest.

Please can we correspond. I have a herd of registered rare goats. I tested and almost from one farm tested positive for CAE. One with Johnes. I am a lifetime believer in alternative healing and prevention. I mourned a cried and decided to aggressively fight these monsters. I just ordered from Molly's Herbals a woman who has an arthritis combo I'm going to try. She had an article about fighting CAE. My poor, sweet Bridget last year woke up blind and down. I did treat with the usual, LA200 and B complex and eye treatments. I believe she had a miscarriage as well. She keeps keeping on and I just can't cull her. I hope to be informed of all updated information. Please help. DIANA

 

[Jdsmichel]

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2565950/

Published in 2008 but I have not come across the article on this site before

Hank you! I have oregano oil caps at home and will see how to get Cinnamon oil. I need to study this article when I'm not at work....Thanks! Diana