Hoeggers natural wormers?

[annabelle64]

Does anybody use these in addition to regularwormers?

 

[sodamancer]

I do not use hoegers but use molly's herbal wormers. (she is the fiasco farm lady) I only have a small herd. 3 does. they are kept in a fairly small area but so far its working for us to keep the worms away. All fecal samples have negative ick results

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

I just want to say that there has NEVER been a study that showed that herbal wormers work. Not a single study.

Before one gets into the whole herbal wormer thing I recommend doing your research because herbal workers do not work and your goats will suffer from it.I'd you are doing regular wormers in addition that's better than just herbal but why waste the money on the herbal in the first place when it doesn't work?

 

[sodamancer]

I am sorry to disagree with you. My friends have been rasing goats for several years on a natural worming schedule and fiasco farms has also been doing it for a long time and their results say that is is working.

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

I am sorry to disagree with you. My friends have been rasing goats for several years on a natural worming schedule and fiasco farms has also been doing it for a long time and their results say that is is working.

Interesting. I have heard so many people say just that until their goats drop dead from worms or until someone does a fecal and shows that they do indeed have worms.

Again, not one study has EVER EVER shown natural wormers to help or work in any way what so ever. That's pretty hard evidence imo

Also have you seen Fiasco Farm's goats? Skinniest things you've ever seen. btw they no longer do goats.

 

[bonbean01]

We do a garlic barrier and apple cider vinegar on our sheep as a preventative for barber pole worms and it works, but it says it is NOT effective on goats.

 

[DonnaBelle]

A little story:

2 years back we took a goat from a low life neighbor who was low on money. He had kept the goat in a 10 x 10 pen with a small shed. He fed her dog food and leaves and branches from trees.

I took fecal samples to the vet. Lo and behold, she had O worms. Vet said because she had been in a dirt pen, no grass, weeds, anything worms could live in/on.

If you keep goats in a pen, with only dirt ground and feed them hay, cut high brouse, and pelleted feed, you are not going to have much of a worm load.

Now our country's climate and soil is vastly different from one State to another. I'd like to raise goats in Arizona, but for sure not Florida.
I don't know about the herbal wormers, what works for some might not for others. I take fecals to the vet and do what he says, he's a good goat vet.

DonnaBelle

 

[sodamancer]

well perhaps my lack ofworms is due to the backyard environment. my goats have no pasture. i feed fodder hay and salmon berry browse mostly. but my friends in bfe do pasture and no worms in those doe's either.

 

[sodamancer]

Again, not one study has EVER EVER shown natural wormers to help or work in any way what so ever. That's pretty hard evidence imo

Also have you seen Fiasco Farm's goats? Skinniest things you've ever seen. btw they no longer do goats.

dairy goats are just skinnier. like the differece between a meat and dairy cow. i have read the research, i still feel that natural is the way for us to care for our herd.

 

[kstaven]

Yah well straw. Up until recent history there wasn't a single "peer reviewed study" that showed manure made good fertilizer. It is just recent history that WSU released one. So does that mean until very recent history our farmers didn't have a clue as to what was effective for them?

From personal experience and constant vet sampling for worms I can say natural wormers have been effective for us.

And yes people are correct in saying that dairy breeds have a totally different frame from a meat animal and for those used to meat breeds, dairies in peak condition will look lean to them.