Horns vs. No horns. What do you like best?

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I find it amusing that people consider disbudding cruel, but not banding wethers.

Castrating, even without anesthesia is less cruel than putting a rubber band around the top of an animals scrotum which will cause them discomfort/pain for weeks.

And that horns are standard equipment, but testicles aren't. :)
 

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You actually ave a real good point. I don't think that disbudding is cruel but I do not like it for me. Other want to do it, that's fine.

Now banding I am in favor of and I will band my kids but yes, it is basically making them rot away. Some could say it is cruel, yes.
 

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Straw Hat Kikos said:
You actually ave a real good point. I don't think that disbudding is cruel but I do not like it for me. Other want to do it, that's fine.

Now banding I am in favor of and I will band my kids but yes, it is basically making them rot away. Some could say it is cruel, yes.
My basic point is that we often do things to livestock or all animals for that point to suit our needs, not theirs

So, why don't you just castrate them? My wife will show you how to do it :)
 

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NO horns..... I like them without horns. With horns they can get stuck in the fence and they can hurt the children or each other. I have never had a horned goat to compare but have heard from others and I am convinced... Making weathers is the only way to keep a buckling unless the buckling is awesome because I hear that they are nasty and stinky
 

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OneFineAcre said:
Straw Hat Kikos said:
You actually ave a real good point. I don't think that disbudding is cruel but I do not like it for me. Other want to do it, that's fine.

Now banding I am in favor of and I will band my kids but yes, it is basically making them rot away. Some could say it is cruel, yes.
My basic point is that we often do things to livestock or all animals for that point to suit our needs, not theirs

So, why don't you just castrate them? My wife will show you how to do it :)
Your first statement is so true.

My neighbor can and may teach me and my other vet could too. Think is it costs me $0 for me to band but $25+ to castrate. I'd rather band.
 

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Straw Hat Kikos said:
OneFineAcre said:
Straw Hat Kikos said:
You actually ave a real good point. I don't think that disbudding is cruel but I do not like it for me. Other want to do it, that's fine.

Now banding I am in favor of and I will band my kids but yes, it is basically making them rot away. Some could say it is cruel, yes.
My basic point is that we often do things to livestock or all animals for that point to suit our needs, not theirs

So, why don't you just castrate them? My wife will show you how to do it :)
Your first statement is so true.

My neighbor can and may teach me and my other vet could too. Think is it costs me $0 for me to band but $25+ to castrate. I'd rather band.
Why does it cost you $25 to castrate if you do it yourself? Look up castrating a goat on you tube. There's a video on there of a vet doing it and a farmer doing it. They do it the same.
 

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hah I meant for the vet to do it. I would have to put them under to do it myself. That too cost money. Do you do it without putting them under?
 

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Straw Hat Kikos said:
hah I meant for the vet to do it. I would have to put them under to do it myself. That too cost money. Do you do it without putting them under?
No we don't put them under.

My original statement was that banding was worse than castrating even without anesthesia.

Look at the you tube video.

It's no worse than disbudding.
 

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I have 4 goats 2 have horns 2 dont. I would let mine kkep there horns if I ever get some more babys!
 

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We don't disbud our kids. We used to have it done but I just don't like the process and I rather like them with horns, so last year's kids and this year's kids all have horns.

We are turning to a burdizzo for castrating as well as we feel it is less risky in the long run.
 

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