How do you get a 2,000 lb bull in a trailer?

[ksalvagno]

Wow, that is really a shame. Whoever paid him should know the full truth about this mess including your life being put in jeopardy. If the man in charge has already been paid and you have been paid nothing, it is not your problem and not your responsibility to get the bull into the trailer. The man who was paid should totally take care of the problem and do whatever HE has to do to get the job done.

I would be making some irate phone calls at this point and really make it known that this is a big problem. I would also let the owner know that if something happens to you because of the bull, you will be suing him. Maybe that will get his attention.

 

[siroiszoo]

Wow, that is really a shame. Whoever paid him should know the full truth about this mess including your life being put in jeopardy. If the man in charge has already been paid and you have been paid nothing, it is not your problem and not your responsibility to get the bull into the trailer. The man who was paid should totally take care of the problem and do whatever HE has to do to get the job done.

I would be making some irate phone calls at this point and really make it known that this is a big problem. I would also let the owner know that if something happens to you because of the bull, you will be suing him. Maybe that will get his attention.

Can't get blood out of a turnip as the saying goes.

I won't be feeding the bull anymore. I will just have to figure out how to manage my horses without the use of that pasture. And, by next Saturday, if I don't see a full blown effort to get that bull in the trailer - by professionals, I will be calling the owner in California and laying every single sordid detail out on the table and see what happens next.

 

[Imissmygirls]

And you can't safely pasture your horses in there with all sorts of ropes all over the place!

Does TheManInCharge think he's going to trip the bull and tangle him in the ropes?
You really DO need to write a book on this. Change the names of course.
Except for George's.

 

[freemotion]

And, by next Saturday, if I don't see a full blown effort to get that bull in the trailer - by professionals, I will be calling the owner in California and laying every single sordid detail out on the table and see what happens next.

Why wait another week? Call him tomorrow! Good grazing is getting trompled! Horses are getting weaker and thinner!

Besides, I don't have the patience to wait another week for the next installment.....

 

[siroiszoo]

And, by next Saturday, if I don't see a full blown effort to get that bull in the trailer - by professionals, I will be calling the owner in California and laying every single sordid detail out on the table and see what happens next.

Why wait another week? Call him tomorrow! Good grazing is getting trompled! Horses are getting weaker and thinner!

Besides, I don't have the patience to wait another week for the next installment.....

Trying to keep the peace. Slept on it and I'm trying to look at the bright side of this so I don't make the situation worse by losing my temper.

Even if we get the bull gone, I'm still going to have to deal with these people for years to come while the owner is in California working. Granted, not as much, but the owner will still be relying on them for his interests here. (I really thought the owner was smarter than that...) And, these people have been the owners friends; drinking, camping, playing buddies, etc for over 8 years. While we have just been the quiet, easy going neighbors during that time.

So it benefits me more to be patient in this matter. It'd be one thing if money & contracts had exchanged hands but it's all been a verbal agreement. I did ask the owner for a contract since it keeps things nice and neat for both parties but never got one. So it really won't help to start raising a fuss. We've already called once on the bull and once on the cargo container. So, I can wait a little longer - as completely frustrating as that is!

At least we have had some rain & some warm enough weather to get the grass filled back in before it cooled off. And I did have 6 weeks to keep my horses mostly off of my pasture to help it recover some.

But believe me. It has been a very difficult time trying to control our tempers in this mess. I thought my husband was going to have another heart attack when he got so angry at them yesterday. However, it would only make things more difficult for us if we took that route.

Later when I get time, I'll take a picture of the latest arrangement that was left for me last night! If I can get a good picture of it, it should entertain everyone. I would have fallen on the ground laughing at the ridiculousness (if that's a word) of it but I was too shocked and mad.

Besides, we need to get a good look at things to see if we can salvage it. Sure wish I had a truck that would haul a gooseneck. I could at least get the trailer put in a better position for this.

Stay tuned to As The Bull Roams..........

 

[freemotion]

As The Stomach Turns is what I was thinking....

Did I tell you that I have an old glass milk bottle that says, "Sirois Dairy" on it? The dairy was still in operation when I was a teen in Maine, and when I bought my first house from an older widow who'd lived in it for decades, there was the milk bottle in one of the cupboards or in the cellar. I use it now in my fridge for my goat's milk.

 

[john in wa]

you might be better off just forgetting the idea of free pasture for your horse's and just be done with this mess. If i was you i would just go buy some hay. call the owner of the pasture and let him know you wont be using his pasture. I wouldent even bother the man being so far away there is nothing he can do about it. only thing he can do is call his buddys maybe loose a couple friends over the deal ect. wash your hands of this deal you should sleep better at night. then wish old george the bull good luck lol

 

[siroiszoo]

As The Stomach Turns is what I was thinking....

Did I tell you that I have an old glass milk bottle that says, "Sirois Dairy" on it? The dairy was still in operation when I was a teen in Maine, and when I bought my first house from an older widow who'd lived in it for decades, there was the milk bottle in one of the cupboards or in the cellar. I use it now in my fridge for my goat's milk.

Cool! My husband's family can be traced back to New Foundland. Could be that some of them stayed in Maine. His grandparents and parents were in New Jersey; then jobs moved them to the Houston, TX area. But it is a very large family and that is the only small fraction I can keep track of.

 

[siroiszoo]

you might be better off just forgetting the idea of free pasture for your horse's and just be done with this mess. If i was you i would just go buy some hay. call the owner of the pasture and let him know you wont be using his pasture. I wouldent even bother the man being so far away there is nothing he can do about it. only thing he can do is call his buddys maybe loose a couple friends over the deal ect. wash your hands of this deal you should sleep better at night. then wish old george the bull good luck lol

Trust me, if I was in a position to forget the whole idea, I would. My husband & I were discussing that very possibility last night.

Trust me, that pasture is not free. There is lots of work to be done in it. I can offer hard work & sweat, but money is short this year. Buying hay is the whole problem that started this mess - for me, anyway. The recession has knocked our income way down and the drought made for few bales of very high priced hay this year. If I can even find horse quality hay, I cant afford enough of it to get my horses through winter.

Unless another solution becomes available, I'm kinda stuck where I am. So far, I haven't lost anything and stand to gain WHEN the bull goes.

When you look at it long term, eventually the bull WILL be gone whether by trailer or over the fence. And 8 acres of nice grazing land will be available without the all the headaches. And I really need a good year or two or seven to allow my pasture much needed rest.

There is no way I'm going to endanger my life to get rid of that bull. But I'm not going to blow the chance at 8 acres of prime grazing either. So I'll have to adopt a sit and wait attitude.

So for now, I'm working on my level of patience and trying to accumulate as much hay as I can in the meantime - even if it is 5 or 6 bales at a time.

 

[siroiszoo]

You're gonna love this!

They say it's the thought that counts, right? I guess he figured he'd rig this so I wouldn't have to go in the pasture.

So he started by parking the trailer 20 feet from the fence I usually dump the feed over and about 50 to 60 feet from the gate I use when I have to go in that pasture.

Next he rigged it with ropes and ran them over the fence and about 100 feet into the 'safe' pasture.

Then, to guarantee I couldn't get the back doors shut should that bull by chance venture into the trailer after the aroma of stale alfalfa & range cubes, he put some weird blue piece of plastic held in place by clamps to ensure that the doors can't lock when they are shut.

I don't know. You guys tell me. Maybe I'm missing the point here but seriously????