How do you get a 2,000 lb bull in a trailer?

[Imissmygirls]

So, YOU have a lease on the pasture that the bull is in? Or, you are GOING to have a lease on it? Big difference.
If you DO have the lease currentlyand are paying $$ for the pasture WITHOUT the bull in it, and that critter damages or causes your horses to become damaged because the bull was not removed, I can see lawsuit. However, if you are pasturing the horses and accepting that the bull is there, you may be losing leverage.
If you are paying right now, I'd at least threaten pulling the lease.

If you are just waiting for the lease to come around, then patience.

 

[siroiszoo]

If you are just waiting for the lease to come around, then patience.

Patience on my part. It's a lease on paper but no money will exchange hands... Unless I don't keep the pasture up during the time the owner is away. So I really don't have any leverage.

The deal was that the cows would be gone (over a month ago) and I would run my horses on it. My end is to keep the pasture clean and mowed and the fence lines in good shape. But because of the drought we had this year, I needed to move my horses over even though the bull wasn't gone. I just keep them off the 'leased' pasture when The Guy In Charge Of This Mess attempts to catch the bull.

 

[siroiszoo]

Okay! I am no longer a fan of George the Bull! He chased me and won't let me have my horses back. Somebody get the gun!

 

[jhm47]

Do you have snow there? If not, I might come there and solve your bull problem. Snowed here last night, and 4 - 8 inches more expected tomorrow and Monday. All this after 4" of rain in the past 10 days. Getting the pump primed for another flood in Fargo next spring. IT IS WAAAAAY TOO EARLY FOR WINTER!

 

[siroiszoo]

Wow! I agree. Way too early for winter! Finally cooled off here (low 50's/high upper 60's) for a day or two. It was 98 degrees with 70%+ humidity with a 'feels like' temp of 102 - 108. Thought we were going to die last week. Probably feel horribly humid and warm by Monday or Tuesday when this front backs up, though. If it brings rain, at least we get the cloud cover that will keep the sun from boiling us. But on the upside; no snow!

 

[Imissmygirls]

So what is your liability on the lease and keeping the pasture up if the bull ruins the fences?
Is that YOUR problem because you have the lease even if it is not YOUR bull?
Is it written anywhere that the bovines will be gone?

 

[siroiszoo]

Not sure how that will work out. I've never seen the paperwork so my signature isn't on it. Owner would have to dispute verbal agreement at this point. But doubt he would go that far.

Anyway, we put a call into the owner last night. Awaiting his solution to the problem.

 

[adoptedbyachicken]

Call the stock yard and have them recommend someone or send someone out to get the bull. It will cost a fee but it needs to be done. Tell He Who Is In Charge Of This Mess that the bull has hurt one person and tried to hurt you, the waiting is over. George has to go.

Loading a bull around here generally involves a cattle prod, a quick shock and they change their minds about not going into the trailer. However we have the chutes and corrals to make that work. The stockyards may well bring portable pen panels to help load him.

OR, call a hunter and a sausage maker and be done with him.

 

[siroiszoo]

Call the stock yard and have them recommend someone or send someone out to get the bull. It will cost a fee but it needs to be done. Tell He Who Is In Charge Of This Mess that the bull has hurt one person and tried to hurt you, the waiting is over. George has to go.

Loading a bull around here generally involves a cattle prod, a quick shock and they change their minds about not going into the trailer. However we have the chutes and corrals to make that work. The stockyards may well bring portable pen panels to help load him.

OR, call a hunter and a sausage maker and be done with him.

I do like your idea!

I'm thinking it will have to be the hunter & sausage maker because this bull knows how to lift up portable corrals & chutes and go under them. You should see the remains of the Owner's corral & chute area. And if you really want to piss him off, just try using a cattle prod on him. That's a sure fire way to get him to charge you! As a matter of fact, he throws his body weight into the prod instead of moving away from it.

He is not stupid and gets more aggressive with those techniques.

If it had been put into my hands to deal with from the begining, I would have found skilled, capable wranglers to get the job done a month ago. The bull is a financial loss at this point. I say, just get the job over with. If the Owner does put it in my hands, it would be the "bullet & sausage" routine.

We placed a call to the Owner last night. I don't think he is aware of the nonsense that has been going on here. We will see.

Oh yes, and by the way, George the bull pinned the wife of "the Guy that is in Charge of This Mess" up against the rails a few weeks back. He knows it is a dangerous bull. If that bull had of had his horns, she would have been hospitalized or dead. We told her not to go into the corral with him but she did anyway. It was her own stupid fault. So, the guy knows this bull is dangerous. It's just that he isn't living next door it and I am.

 

[Imissmygirls]

I sure hope you aren't paying for any pasture that this bull is in. Going in there has to be playing with suicide if he has already pinned someone.
So... dare we ask why the bull wasn't shot dead as he had the woman pinned?
And is the owner aware of this pinning? I'd think his insurance agent would be climbing walls.. or canceling his insurance.