Green Acres Farm
True BYH Addict
Before you purchase them, please get them tested for at least CAE. It is more common than you'd think and it's a huge waste of money to buy positive goats.
How many goats? And horns?!
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LMK17
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That's a really good recommendation. I wonder, though, what happens if they come back positive? They've lived on that farm their entire lives (with the exception of the past week-- see below); wouldn't a positive test indicate that the virus is present *on the property*? What would that mean for future animal acquisitions; would all new animals inevitably be exposed?
Also, the goats were just moved to the owners' new property down the street. They moved them last week. I'm not crazy about the move from a bio security standpoint. I MUCH preferred purchasing animals that were born on our new farm. How concerned should I be that the goats picked up some "bug" during their time on the other property?
What all should I have them tested for before we move them back to our new place?
misfitmorgan
Herd Master
If they only moved down the street odds of them picking up something new are pretty darn slim...so long as other livestock were not on that property or neighboring property in a few years and the owners didnt bring in any new stock with the moved old stock.
Alaskan
Herd Master
From what I understand. ..CAE is a spit and body fluids thing..... so, it is actually not something that stays in the soil.
misfitmorgan
Herd Master
CAE
Caprine arthritis encephalitis (CAE) is a contagious viral disease of goats. The disease is typically spread from mother to kid through the ingestion of colostrum or milk. CAE virus may also be spread among adult goats through contact with body secretions including blood and feces of infected goats.
CL
Caseous lymphadenitis is a contagious bacterial infection of the lymph nodes of sheep and goats. It is caused by a bacterium called Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis. Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis, the bacterium that causes the disease CL, is spread from animal to animal primarily through contact with material from subcutaneous abscesses (pus) or fomites (inanimate objects) contaminated with abscess material.
JOHNE'S DISEASE
Johne's (“YO-knees”) disease is a fatal gastrointestinal disease of goats and other ruminants (including cattle, sheep, elk, deer, and bison) that is caused by the bacterium Mycobacterium avium subspecies paratuberculosis (MAP).This infection is contagious, which means it can spread from one animal to another. MAP is hardy - while it cannot replicate outside of an infected animal, it is resistant to heat, cold and drying.
I think MAP or CL is the one your thinking of staying in the soil as MAP can 'live" in the soil for up to 13 months in ideal conditions and CL can for several months as well.
Caprine arthritis encephalitis (CAE) is a contagious viral disease of goats. The disease is typically spread from mother to kid through the ingestion of colostrum or milk. CAE virus may also be spread among adult goats through contact with body secretions including blood and feces of infected goats.
CL
Caseous lymphadenitis is a contagious bacterial infection of the lymph nodes of sheep and goats. It is caused by a bacterium called Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis. Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis, the bacterium that causes the disease CL, is spread from animal to animal primarily through contact with material from subcutaneous abscesses (pus) or fomites (inanimate objects) contaminated with abscess material.
JOHNE'S DISEASE
Johne's (“YO-knees”) disease is a fatal gastrointestinal disease of goats and other ruminants (including cattle, sheep, elk, deer, and bison) that is caused by the bacterium Mycobacterium avium subspecies paratuberculosis (MAP).This infection is contagious, which means it can spread from one animal to another. MAP is hardy - while it cannot replicate outside of an infected animal, it is resistant to heat, cold and drying.
I think MAP or CL is the one your thinking of staying in the soil as MAP can 'live" in the soil for up to 13 months in ideal conditions and CL can for several months as well.
BottleBabbiesrLife
Exploring the pasture
Goat Whisperer
Herd Master
Having raised, handled, worked with, and managed several herds, (not just my own, meat and dairy, probably several hundred goats) I would have to disagree. Goats do not like being grabbed by their horns.
Would you like to be grabbed by your hair, or your hand?
I raise dairy goats, although I have managed meat goat herd in the past (the basic daily stuff, to fecal analysis, health troubleshooting, the whole bit). I can honestly say from experience, that collars have been much easier on me and the goats.
Would you like to be grabbed by your hair, or your hand?
I raise dairy goats, although I have managed meat goat herd in the past (the basic daily stuff, to fecal analysis, health troubleshooting, the whole bit). I can honestly say from experience, that collars have been much easier on me and the goats.
