farmerjan
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Okay, you already have a plan. First off, a roll of hay will last a long time, the goats will also eat it and it would be great. If he can bring you one, try to put it on a pallet; most places here give them away to get rid of them. It will keep it up off the ground so there will be less waste. And free pallets make great "fences" when tied or wired together... Not knowing how big the rolls are, (4x4 will have 600-800 lbs) it should last the calf for months...even with the goats eating some of it. When the calf gets bigger, like a year old, it will last a month or more probably....and that will depend on whether you can get it out to graze some also. They definitely will eat more in the colder weather. It should save you money compared to the cost of the small square bales. You will have some waste but you can use that as bedding if it isn't wet . If you can cover it with a small tarp on top then you will waste less. But the calf and the goats will have fun pulling it off so maybe you might not try to cover it.
I'm not a big goat person, but do some farm sitting for some friends when they go away so have a little experience with them. What kind of goat is your billy or how big is he? Is he a pygmy? I would say that the calf will be big enough to intimidate the goat, and I see no reason why they can't share the pen if it is big enough that they can get away from each other. You will just have to watch and see. But if you are planning on the calf having his own place, then some temp "bunking in together" should work. Depends on your billy. You will just have to try it.
Nothing you listed that the goats like to nibble on should cause any problem for the calf but cattle are grazers, not really browsers, so he probably will not bother much of that stuff unless he is starving. Most cows are mindful of snakes,and we seldom have problems here with snakebite; we have some rattlesnakes, but most are non-poisonous like black snakes and such. There are some copperheads too. But not anything like you would have in the warmer climate south of here.
On a trip by, you might want to stop at the farmers market and walk around. You might meet some people who have animals that are more considerate than the teachers at school seem to be. Or find someone who has raised some bottle babies or just to see what is available. Never know where you might just run into the right situation....Maybe find a part-time job on a small farm that would help you with feed or hay purchases. Keep your options open...the barter system works good and sometimes you meet someone that will be a friend for life...
The calf bottle from tractor supply is right. One suggestion, I would get the "lamb or goat" nipple not the calf nipple. You would be able to use it for lambs or goats if you needed it too but the reason that I say this is that I use that size for my calves. Yes it is smaller, but most cows teats are not as big as the "calf nipple" and a little smaller nipple will not "drown" the calf if he gets to trying to drink too fast. It is not a life or death difference, but that's just what I do. Also, I sometimes have jersey calves to bottle feed and that nipple works better for a smaller calf. I have used it when we have lambs to feed, after they get a couple of weeks old they get pretty aggressive when drinking and I can put a quart of milk in the bottle and feed a couple of lambs with it and not have to make up several bottles. Sure, many will say it is not sanitary, but it has worked for me over the years.
Have you any thoughts what you will do with it if it is a bull calf? Can you allow yourself to raise it and take care of it then put it in the freezer to eat it, or sell it? You cannot afford to keep it for a pet if it is a bull calf. Oh, one thing, if it is a bull calf, you need to get it "banded" as a baby or castrated when it is a little older. Bulls are not for backyard pets and they will get acting "bullish" when they start to get mature. A steer will be much more handleable and better dispositioned. Banding it as a baby is fairly easy and quick and will be better all the way around. If it is a heifer, then you will have a very small beginning of a possible herd of cows down the road...
I'm not a big goat person, but do some farm sitting for some friends when they go away so have a little experience with them. What kind of goat is your billy or how big is he? Is he a pygmy? I would say that the calf will be big enough to intimidate the goat, and I see no reason why they can't share the pen if it is big enough that they can get away from each other. You will just have to watch and see. But if you are planning on the calf having his own place, then some temp "bunking in together" should work. Depends on your billy. You will just have to try it.
Nothing you listed that the goats like to nibble on should cause any problem for the calf but cattle are grazers, not really browsers, so he probably will not bother much of that stuff unless he is starving. Most cows are mindful of snakes,and we seldom have problems here with snakebite; we have some rattlesnakes, but most are non-poisonous like black snakes and such. There are some copperheads too. But not anything like you would have in the warmer climate south of here.
On a trip by, you might want to stop at the farmers market and walk around. You might meet some people who have animals that are more considerate than the teachers at school seem to be. Or find someone who has raised some bottle babies or just to see what is available. Never know where you might just run into the right situation....Maybe find a part-time job on a small farm that would help you with feed or hay purchases. Keep your options open...the barter system works good and sometimes you meet someone that will be a friend for life...
The calf bottle from tractor supply is right. One suggestion, I would get the "lamb or goat" nipple not the calf nipple. You would be able to use it for lambs or goats if you needed it too but the reason that I say this is that I use that size for my calves. Yes it is smaller, but most cows teats are not as big as the "calf nipple" and a little smaller nipple will not "drown" the calf if he gets to trying to drink too fast. It is not a life or death difference, but that's just what I do. Also, I sometimes have jersey calves to bottle feed and that nipple works better for a smaller calf. I have used it when we have lambs to feed, after they get a couple of weeks old they get pretty aggressive when drinking and I can put a quart of milk in the bottle and feed a couple of lambs with it and not have to make up several bottles. Sure, many will say it is not sanitary, but it has worked for me over the years.
Have you any thoughts what you will do with it if it is a bull calf? Can you allow yourself to raise it and take care of it then put it in the freezer to eat it, or sell it? You cannot afford to keep it for a pet if it is a bull calf. Oh, one thing, if it is a bull calf, you need to get it "banded" as a baby or castrated when it is a little older. Bulls are not for backyard pets and they will get acting "bullish" when they start to get mature. A steer will be much more handleable and better dispositioned. Banding it as a baby is fairly easy and quick and will be better all the way around. If it is a heifer, then you will have a very small beginning of a possible herd of cows down the road...