Im at a loss, please help.

[rockdoveranch]

I am So sorry for your losses.

I am curious about Ivermectin percentages and dosing.

We use Ivermectin 1% solution injectable (for cattle) orally according the instructions for cattle which is 1cc per 110 pounds.

Recently we bought Ivermectin Sheep Drench 0.08% Solution. We have not used it yet, but the label says to use 3.0 mL (2.4 mg ivermectin) per 26 pounds of body weight.

In other words, for example, 1% ivermection solution = 1 mL ivermection in 100 mLs solution.

The sheep drench dosage of 3ml/26lbs delivers 200mcg/kg of body weight. The injectable dosage of 1cc/110lbs delivers 200 mcg/kg of body weight. The pour on dosage of 1cc/22lbs delivers 500mcg/kg of body weight.
Personally I dose around 800 mcg/kg of body weight.

Thanks for your post Goat, however, it is not possible to do calculations until you tell us what the solution percentage is on each of your product containers.

The Sheep Drench we bought is Durvet Sheep Drench 0.08%. I am quoting from their bottle, so if they say 3.0 mL of their solution =s 2.4 mg ivermectin, I believe them.

What brand are you quoting from on for the 0.08% solution?

I cannot comment of your other information because I do not know the percentages. Please give us the brand names and the percentages and what the products are used for.

 

[elevan]

I always look at the mg (or mcg) of medicine per ml / fl.oz or whatever equivalent that they give it...then break out my basic algebra and do the math.

RockDoveRanch - If you want to PM me the numbers on your bottle and what you want them to equate to I'd be more than happy to do the math for you

 

[helmstead]

I always look at the mg (or mcg) of medicine per ml / fl.oz or whatever equivalent that they give it...then break out my basic algebra and do the math.

 

[Goatmasta]

My info came off the product labels, pretty sure I remembered right. Most drugs say how much of the actual drug is being delivered at the suggested dose. Check your label usually the info is on the insert that has really small type and most people throw away.

 

[rockdoveranch]

I always look at the mg (or mcg) of medicine per ml / fl.oz or whatever equivalent that they give it...then break out my basic algebra and do the math.

RockDoveRanch - If you want to PM me the numbers on your bottle and what you want them to equate to I'd be more than happy to do the math for you

Thanks for the offer Elevan, but I can do the calculations.

What I am saying here is that if you are not purchasing products designed for goats and/or sheep, you need to know the % of ivermectin to sterile solution to calculate properly. For example, I have one bottle that is 0.08% ivermectin solution and another that is 1% ivermectin solution, and yet another that is 2%. Maybe I am wrong, but from what I have read, I am not sure if that is understood when suggesting doses on this thread.

If someone is suggesting a dose it is important, in my own personal opinion, to know the percentages and what kind of animal the product is for before giving it to an animal the product was no meant for.

 

[rockdoveranch]

My info came off the product labels, pretty sure I remembered right. Most drugs say how much of the actual drug is being delivered at the suggested dose. Check your label usually the info is on the insert that has really small type and most people throw away.

Thanks Goat. We are big label readers and label savers. Sometimes it gets a little tricky when you are calculating for homing pigeons.

What product brands are you using and are they designed for use in goats and/or sheep?

We have been very lucky in that we found a Purina dealer that sells a lot of products for sheep. Finding products for goats is pretty easy around here.

 

[elevan]

I always look at the mg (or mcg) of medicine per ml / fl.oz or whatever equivalent that they give it...then break out my basic algebra and do the math.

RockDoveRanch - If you want to PM me the numbers on your bottle and what you want them to equate to I'd be more than happy to do the math for you

Thanks for the offer Elevan, but I can do the calculations.

What I am saying here is that if you are not purchasing products designed for goats and/or sheep, you need to know the % of ivermectin to sterile solution to calculate properly. For example, I have one bottle that is 0.08% ivermectin solution and another that is 1% ivermectin solution, and yet another that is 2%. Maybe I am wrong, but from what I have read, I am not sure if that is understood when suggesting doses on this thread.

If someone is suggesting a dose it is important, in my own personal opinion, to know the percentages and what kind of animal the product is for before giving it to an animal the product was no meant for.

I think I get what you're saying...

To clarify: Most of us just throw out the term IVOMEC (ivermectin) and don't say which % formula is at that dose...I'm guilty of that (I use 1% but just usually say Ivomec). Same thing happens when we're talking about cocci and those meds...I've seen the % questioned multiple times and for some reason when it's questioned there it's not a problem.
Sounds like we can avoid the confusion by saying exactly what we're using...so in my case instead of just saying Ivomec, I'll make a concentrated effort to say Ivomec 1%.

I hope I had that right...and that's what you're meaning Just correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[rockdoveranch]

I always look at the mg (or mcg) of medicine per ml / fl.oz or whatever equivalent that they give it...then break out my basic algebra and do the math.

RockDoveRanch - If you want to PM me the numbers on your bottle and what you want them to equate to I'd be more than happy to do the math for you

Thanks for the offer Elevan, but I can do the calculations.

What I am saying here is that if you are not purchasing products designed for goats and/or sheep, you need to know the % of ivermectin to sterile solution to calculate properly. For example, I have one bottle that is 0.08% ivermectin solution and another that is 1% ivermectin solution, and yet another that is 2%. Maybe I am wrong, but from what I have read, I am not sure if that is understood when suggesting doses on this thread.

If someone is suggesting a dose it is important, in my own personal opinion, to know the percentages and what kind of animal the product is for before giving it to an animal the product was no meant for.

I think I get what you're saying...

To clarify: Most of us just throw out the term IVOMEC (ivermectin) and don't say which % formula is at that dose...I'm guilty of that (I use 1% but just usually say Ivomec). Same thing happens when we're talking about cocci and those meds...I've seen the % questioned multiple times and for some reason when it's questioned there it's not a problem.
Sounds like we can avoid the confusion by saying exactly what we're using...so in my case instead of just saying Ivomec, I'll make a concentrated effort to say Ivomec 1%.

I hope I had that right...and that's what you're meaning Just correct me if I'm wrong.

Yep, that is what I mean.

When I was out letting the dogs run I was trying to figure out whether I was doing a good job of explaining what I meant . . . or not.

The ivermectin we have been using is by Merial 1% and it is for cattle and swine. I was thinking it is just for cattle, sorry. We use the Merial 1% for cattle and swine to prevent heartworms in our dogs at 0.1cc per 10 pounds of doggie, but please, do not do this without first checking with your vet or vet friend! And use the cow dosage for the sheep. The swine dose is different that the dose for cows. For swine it is 1 mL per 75 lb body weight.

The Sheep Drench by Durvet is just for sheep and is 0.08% solution, so the dosage is not the same as the Merial 1% for cows and swine.

This is the percentage usage chart that we go by. Sorry, but we no longer have the site where we got it from.

In the mean time, my Boxer is laying at my side and I am watching him closely. He was bitten hopefully by a copperhead and not a timber rattlesnake on the leg. I knew something was wrong when we got on the 4-wheeler. He looked up at me and was not interested in running along side us. He had already been running wild with the other 3 dogs for an hour and a half by then. The tell-tell black blister has just started to present and the swelling is spreading. He also has something on his neck, but if it was a poisonous snake, it was a dry bite. This is not his first poisonous snake bit. All the rest have been on his face and they have not really bothered him even though they were wet bites. Not sure why this bite is bothering him.

So I may not be on until tomorrow or later if we have a vet emergency on hand.

 

[helmstead]

In the mean time, my Boxer is laying at my side and I am watching him closely. He was bitten hopefully by a copperhead and not a timber rattlesnake on the leg. I knew something was wrong when we got on the 4-wheeler. He looked up at me and was not interested in running along side us. He had already been running wild with the other 3 dogs for an hour and a half by then. The tell-tell black blister has just started to present and the swelling is spreading. He also has something on his neck, but if it was a poisonous snake, it was a dry bite. This is not his first poisonous snake bit. All the rest have been on his face and they have not really bothered him even though they were wet bites. Not sure why this bite is bothering him.

So I may not be on until tomorrow or later if we have a vet emergency on hand.

yeeps

 

[rockdoveranch]

I want to apologize for going off topic on this important thread. I was worrying about my dog as I was typing. He is much much better this morning and most of the swelling is gone. He has had plenty of copperhead bites and this is the first time he has ever responded in that silent way that dogs do to hide pain. He was down for about 7 hours. Again, I am sorry.