Inbreeding...

Moody

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I separated my doelings from their sire. I have a young buckling willing to do the job. The doeling had come into heat, yet again, and only interested in her own daddy. He is in the field right on the fence line as hers. I worried he would get over the fence So when I saw her in heat again I put her and her 1/2 sister into a small pen with the unrelated buckling. I wanted the sire and other females I have to have access to shelter because they MELT in rain. So there was only a gate separating them. I went out an hour later and the gate was bent and standing open. I think the older doeling is already bred to the younger buckling but the younger doeling (8 months and big enough to be bred) was no longer showing interest in daddy and although I again separated them, I could see evidence that she was covered.

Unregistered lamancha/alpine doeling and her own registered alpine sire.

My internet search discovered that some folks do this on purpose. This happened on jan 6 so I know I can use lute 10 days after the breeding (I believe 2cc intramuscularly) and she will re absorb (if it even took) but I haven't even checked on availability of lute. I would have to order it online I think.

Would it be awful to let it go? I know there are shared genes and bad traits could result in a bad outcome but it also could be just fine.

I had an electric fence go down and had to move them up with the rest before breeding season was over otherwise she would have been far removed from her daddy. Safety from my own dogs and other dogs or coyotes trumps breeding needs in my book.

I don't show, I've been in this goat stuff for a whole year. Any bad traits my buck has I likely wouldn't recognize. He isn't overly aggressive but has quickly growing hooves that need trimmed frequently. He has filled out this year as he is nearing 2 years old in May. He stays trim (almost too trim) and isn't quite as large as I thought he would be. If that helps at all.
 

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I learned that putting a buckling into a pen with a doeling in heat will result in the other buck doing his best to fight the buckling to get to the doeling despite a well installed gate. I Should have left the buck in the field without shelter from rain I guess. That would have put him farther away.
 

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I had the same thing happen once. Buck got out and bred his daughter.
Daddy had posty rear legs, and the baby that was born had really posty rear legs.
Otherwise she was healthy and normal.
I wouldn't lute one because of that, but that's me.

I'm pretty sure you can't get Lute except from a vet or with vet prescription.
 

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Ah okay. that would be easier to get then.

So if inbreeding happens and is generally okay, now I just have to decide if she is too young. I wanted to wait until next season. My own trial to see if I'm truly stunting growth on breeding does young. Besides I have 3 does I believe to be bred. I may be doing something wrong nutritionally because they each had single doelings their first pregnancies.

I make this stuff with goats really difficult and complicated. My husband really dislikes that
 

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What kind of goats do you have?

My accidental breeding was an 8 month old as well and I have Nigerians. And I can tell you she did fine and it did not impact her future growth. She is a nice looking doe.

I wouldn't think you are doing anything wrong nutritionally, most of mine have singles first time. I'd have to look back for sure, maybe not most, but a lot.
 

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If her size and hip width is good you shouldn't have any issues. The other side of the equation is the inbreeding... some do, some don't.

The right choice for us would be to lute if they were dairy goats that I have more specific plans for... but not for meat goats. Meat goats would be terminal anyway.
Lute is easy to get from your vet, easy to use.

I think either way would be fine. For many Standard goats singles are very normal.
 

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i haven't yet sold a goat so I don't know about marketability in my case but I suspect any offspring from an unregistered mixed breed would only bring a low price unless I had milk records and a proven herd name.

She isn't quite as large as her half sister who is alpine/Nubian but she looks to be about as close to her mother's size as her 1/2 sister is to her own Nubian mother.

I may check the cost of lute just to be able to weigh in that factor.

If singles are normal then maybe all is well. :)
 

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I must fix his accidental breeding issue because I know a second time would really be ill advised
 

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I must fix his accidental breeding issue because I know a second time would really be ill advised
You are the only one who can figure out what's best for you
We sold the doe kid from our accidental breeding but keep in touch with the buyer
Her back legs are still posty but she has a very good udder and is a good milker
And she has had some nice kids crossed with a totally unrelated buck
 

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