Indigestion in Goats - How to administer Epson Salt?

[elevan]

I HATE math...

Mkay...I THINK I would put SIX oz dry measure of the powder into 1 qt of water...and then dose as they've said (1 fl oz per 100 lbs) remembering that there are nearly 30 ccs per fluid oz...



Because with the 9.6% one should x5 the dose, so makes sense that at 20% one should x2 the dose OR SO...

You know Helmstead I think that sounds pretty sensible

My problem is that I need to know the mg per part and I'll go through figuring out all the math to get to the solution to divide the blah blah blah blah

 

[Mzyla]

UPDATE

Seems like goat is doing lot better!
They both were beeeeeee-meeeeeeee-ing this early morning for food.
The "sick" one poop regular black berries.
In a bottle I only gave her mixed yogurt with my home made fruit juice.
(We don't drink store juices; I boil water with fruits and some sugar)

Now they free ranging and picking leafes from trees.
I also noticed her eating little hay - must be hungry!

I still like to believe that she eat sometning, because yesterday I took magnifying glass and look into her poop, which was still little clumpy and I observed some white particles resembling pieces of plastic and also some pieces resembling broken egg shell)

In comparison between these two, she is skinny and still appear weaker then normal. She did jump on a car tough
The other one it's always been like a wine barrel!

No matter what, I will feed them both with that Cocci stuff - just in case, right? Or should I rather wait for the shipment of the better stuff, which I ordered online?


Thanks!

 

[elevan]

UPDATE

Seems like goat is doing lot better!
They both were beeeeeee-meeeeeeee-ing this early morning for food.
The "sick" one poop regular black berries.
In a bottle I only gave her mixed yogurt with my home made fruit juice.
(We don't drink store juices; I boil water with fruits and some sugar)

Now they free ranging and picking leafes from trees.
I also noticed her eating little hay - must be hungry!

I still like to believe that she eat sometning, because yesterday I took magnifying glass and look into her poop, which was still little clumpy and I observed some white particles resembling pieces of plastic and also some pieces resembling broken egg shell)

In comparison between these two, she is skinny and still appear weaker then normal. She did jump on a car tough
The other one it's always been like a wine barrel!

No matter what, I will feed them both with that Cocci stuff - just in case, right? Or should I rather wait for the shipment of the better stuff, which I ordered online?


Thanks!

Whatever you do - don't stop treating just to wait for something better.

And the white pieces of stuff in the poop sounds like it could be tapeworm eggs. I would start treating for tapeworms. Use Safeguard (can get at TSC) and dose at 3x the label dose.

I just had to deal with a bout of cocci and tapeworms in one of my doelings so I feel for you!

 

[helmstead]

And the white pieces of stuff in the poop sounds like it could be tapeworm eggs. I would start treating for tapeworms. Use Safeguard (can get at TSC) and dose at 3x the label dose.

Tapeworm EGGS are microscopic. Tapeworm segments, unmistakable. Looking at feces through a magnifying glass is not diagnostic.

This thread is getting a little too speculative. I'd recommend continuing the cocci treatment as best you can and getting a fecal sample to a vet on Tuesday.

 

[Mzyla]

I will continue with the Cocci meds.
And guys - I did look it up on a internet how tapeworm eggs look like and what I saw in my magnifying glass was NOTHING like that.
The pieces I saw, was some triangles, som rectangles, some larger almost 1/4 inch pieces like shredded white shopping bag....
Believe me, it was visible even without magnifying glass.

I'm catching my goats nibbling on anything and everything....I'm constantly hiding objects from around the house...

 

[elevan]

I will continue with the Cocci meds.
And guys - I did look it up on a internet how tapeworm eggs look like and what I saw in my magnifying glass was NOTHING like that.
The pieces I saw, was some triangles, som rectangles, some larger almost 1/4 inch pieces like shredded white shopping bag....
Believe me, it was visible even without magnifying glass.

I'm catching my goats nibbling on anything and everything....I'm constantly hiding objects from around the house...

Yep, you're right that doesn't sound like tapeworm segments (meant to say that and said eggs - my bad)

 

[Mzyla]

Goats just wake up from their 2 hrs. nap
and I think Loli is cured!
She drink a bottle with such a thirst and hunger like she came from some starved 3-rd World Country ~LOL~
Now she is eating hay....

Oh...and yesterday I lefted on a bench a cup with that Oil/Epson Salt mixture....as always curious she knocked over and licked most of it!!!
That makes me think, that perhaps they need some sort of salt?

I'm very much relieved now - I hope that she will grow up and give me some milk one day

I have only 2 of them and they are spoiled and pampered.
And why do they like shopping bags so much?
They have so much good food available to them all day long....

By the time I unload my shopping from the car to the house - they manage to shred most of these bags and any bag they can lay their mouths on???

 

[elevan]

Glad to hear that she is feeling much better. Keep up with the cocci treatment though.

Do you have loose minerals available to them all the time? If not then get some goat minerals from TSC and put them out. I wouldn't give just salt as they'll eat all the salt and leave minerals which can make them mineral deficient.

As far as your grocery bags...you really need to nip that in the bud. I would suggest getting some reusable canvas bags to haul your groceries into the house. And / or pen the goats up when you're bringing home stuff.

 

[Mzyla]

Thanks elevan and other members - for all of your concern and for sticking with me till this positive end!
I guess this should conclude this thread - since all is good now.

Goat is eating, drinking and foraging...still little tired, but that is normal after a sickness - just like we humans; when having upset stomach, we are weak for some time afterwards.

 

[20kidsonhill]

Sorry I missed out on helping, with the dosage, but I don't use nearly as high a dosage as some of you recommend. We have been fishing and swimming and my brain is not ready to debate anyonse calculations.

Glad the goat is doing better.

I have used both Corid and sulfa-dimeth. I only use the sulfa as an oral drench, and again not nearly as high a dose as some people on here are using.

We use Corid in the drinking water starting when the kids are 3 weeks of age. I put 2 0z of corid in (9.6%) in the drinking water per 5 gallons and continue for 6 or 7 days. I sometimes adjust that, according to how much water they are drinking, adding more if there water consumption is not high enough.

If they aren't drinking enough water I switch to oral drenching, corid is given at the rate of 1/2 cc per 10lb body weight, twice a day for the first couple of days and then one time a day for the remainder of the treatment.

One can debate if the kids are getting enough corid putting it in the drinking water, as long as the goats aren't on a bunch of wet spring grass and are drinking the water, I have not had problems with a cocci outbreak during the treatment or after the following 3 weeks after the treament. And I do have plenty of cocci around here, if I didn't treat, even on medicated feed, I would loose most my kids and yearlings.