Iron

[arabianequine]

Is red cell the only thing you can get over the counter? I got iron supplement from the vet not long ago and gave to my does after being her only 2 weeks they got really sick and white gums and eyelids. When I took pics and wormed my does last night, the 2 boers looked pretty pale again.


I wonder if the what the vet gave me was any different then red cell. I think I am gonna ask them tomorrow.

 

[elevan]

I know that there is an injectible iron but I don't know if it's rx or not...I've never had to use it.

I've used Red Cell plenty...for horses, goats, calf and dogs...I really like it. I use it at 6ml/ 20-30# no matter what critter I'm dosing it to.

 

[Roll farms]

Most farm stores carry injectable iron (for pigs).

 

[20kidsonhill]

http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/anemiaingoats.html

 

[Goatmasta]

You have a worm load. What are you using for a wormer and @ what dosage?

 

[arabianequine]

I just wormed them on the 9th this last sat. with safe guard horse paste at x3 on the dose.

They were wormed two times on May 4th and May 2st at with Ivermectin horse paste at x2 the dose.

They had Iron supplement before too around the mid. of May for 4-5 days.

I got some more from the vet today. It is called lixotinic. tsp per 25lbs. so I will give them this for 7 days and recheck their gums/eyelids again.

 

[Goatmasta]

I just wormed them on the 9th this last sat. with safe guard horse paste at x3 on the dose.

They were wormed two times on May 4th and May 2st at with Ivermectin horse paste at x2 the dose.

They had Iron supplement before too around the mid. of May for 4-5 days.

I got some more from the vet today. It is called lixotinic. tsp per 25lbs. so I will give them this for 7 days and recheck their gums/eyelids again.

As far as I am concerned safeguard is ineffective. When using the ivermec horse paste you should dose it @ 3x at minimum. I would be dosing it @ 4x if they were here. However, if it were me I would get the ivermec cattle pour on and dose @ 1cc/22lbs(orally). I would also dose them with Valbazen at the same time as the ivermec at least for the next month. Valbazen will kill tapeworms which ivermec will not kill. The issue I have with the horse paste is that it just is not as consistent of a delivery method as the pour on or injectable ivermec. With most dewormers you would rather overdose than under dose. Wide spread under dosing is why safe guard is no longer effective.

The cause of the anemia(worms) needs to be taken care of ASAP. this is not something to mess around with.

 

[arabianequine]

I am pretty sure all my girls are pregnant. I know valbazen should not be given while pregnant. Since they had the ivermectin paste last time. I went with the safe guard paste this time. One that seems pale now had the ivermec injectable on May 21st not orally though, it was injected. It might just be that there gum color is not the pinkest or as pink as my toggs. These are boer doe goats.


I do plan on getting the ivermax very soon.

 

[Goatmasta]

I am pretty sure all my girls are pregnant. I know valbazen should not be given while pregnant. Since they had the ivermectin paste last time. I went with the safe guard paste this time. One that seems pale now had the ivermec injectable on May 21st not orally though, it was injected. It might just be that there gum color is not the pinkest or as pink as my toggs. These are boer doe goats.


I do plan on getting the ivermax very soon.

You are correct about the valbazen. Didn't know they were preggers. The issue here is dosage. If you under dose you will have resistance. You need to use a correct dose to kill the worms. The injectable and pour on ivermec should be dosed @ 1cc/22lbs orally. If you choose to inject the injectable(which I don't recommend but some people do) it is the same dosage. The idea is to deliver around 500-800 mcg/kg of body weight.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I am pretty sure all my girls are pregnant. I know valbazen should not be given while pregnant. Since they had the ivermectin paste last time. I went with the safe guard paste this time. One that seems pale now had the ivermec injectable on May 21st not orally though, it was injected. It might just be that there gum color is not the pinkest or as pink as my toggs. These are boer doe goats.


I do plan on getting the ivermax very soon.

You are correct about the valbazen. Didn't know they were preggers. The issue here is dosage. If you under dose you will have resistance. You need to use a correct dose to kill the worms. The injectable and pour on ivermec should be dosed @ 1cc/22lbs orally. If you choose to inject the injectable(which I don't recommend but some people do) it is the same dosage. The idea is to deliver around 500-800 mcg/kg of body weight.

I agree!! The issue is the dosage. I would use ivermec orally...its much more effective! It taste terrible for them so make sure you get it far back in their mouths as you can when dosing orally so they dont spit it out. Learned that one from expirence!! lol!

Good luck..its important you get this worm load under control soon...they sound in rough shape. ;(