Sourland
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When you ask a question you must expect answers. Simply because you don't hear what you want to hear doesn't mean they are not trying to help. Knowledgeable folks have given good input and advice. Good luck with your litter.
Is she preggo?
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When you ask a question you must expect answers. Simply because you don't hear what you want to hear doesn't mean they are not trying to help. Knowledgeable folks have given good input and advice. Good luck with your litter.
Simpleterrier
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Let me take a step back and redefine. Lgd are different but u can also have a non lgd that is a livestock guardian dog. Or if u want to call it a livestock protector. Does it keep your animals from harm? If the answer is yes and that is what you are looking for then go ahead. Everyone has oops and accidents. It's ok. Take it one day at a time you will eventually be able to tell if she's going to have pups even if it's after she has them. Just do what is best for you and your situation. Are there dogs that have died of old age and never saw a vet or had a shot. You bet there is. So I'll say it again just do what u think is best. That is YOU not me not southern not bunnylady. We don't know your situation or do we care. Some people on here have unlimited time and money others don't. Some go bankrupt for there animals others would die for them. And some of us remember they are animals and we are people. We care for them in a humane way and take care of them. It might not be the same way for all of us. But we do need to remember that we all do it differently than others. It is all our opinions. So good luck to you.
luvmypets
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People are only trying to help you from frustration down the line. You say she is ok with chickens and listens and such. Well take for example our farm dog. He is a border collieXaussie shepherd, so he has an extreme herding drive. It has taken quite some time for him to be respectful of our animals(sheep,alpacas,pigs,poultry) and although he can calmy walk amoungst them 90% of the time, he still has his moments. Once and a while he will chase them which he knows he cant do, but the truth is he cant help himself. Don't get me wrong he is a superb farm dog. He patrols, barks at strangers, and catches any sort of vermin but he is not a LGD. He does not live in harmony with our animals, he would not risk his life for them, and he comes home with us every night. What Im trying to say is no matter how much you train her that instinct will be there and sooner or later you may just have a slip up. Im not trying to tell you what to do with her, its just something to keep in mind.
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Dog
a domesticated carnivorous mammals that typically has a long snout, an acute sense of smell, and a barking, howling, or whining voice. It is widely kept as a pet or for work or field sports.
LGD
a dog that lives with and gaurds livestock.
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a domesticated carnivorous mammals that typically has a long snout, an acute sense of smell, and a barking, howling, or whining voice. It is widely kept as a pet or for work or field sports.
LGD
a dog that lives with and gaurds livestock.
Donald trump is not a politician.
Guess what?
If you live in the United States he is your president. Like it or not.
Southern by choice
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There was never any condemnation towards you and as many on this forum will tell you I go out of my way to help anyone with oops litters and understanding heats, breeding , training etc.
I have 35 years in canines, vet med, and training, the list goes on.
The reason I suggest the vet trip is because some dogs on their first heat cycle because of immaturity may not release enough eggs... the belly looks huge and full of pups but may not be.
One of the most tragic events is when a bitch has 1-2 pups and they are so huge they cannot pass them ... the pups dies, and the bitch dies.
Emergency c- sections can often be too late and the cost of such is staggering. Here in the states $3000- $4000.
Yes dogs have been having pups for thousands of years... all animals....People too.... but when they are your companions and you love your animals giving them a bit of care up front can really save you and them heartache.
Your vet can do an ultrasound or x-ray for very little so you know what to expect.
Things do happen. My last litter my Anatolian had 11 pups and ended up with hypocalcemia. It was a long 3 weeks we almost lost several times. I am equipped for these things and have experience yet I was still on the phone with my vet at 3 am multiple times....
Above all, I don't need to know the hows, or whys of the matter... I do however ultimately care that momma dog and owner come through this.
Just make sure you are well prepared.
I have 35 years in canines, vet med, and training, the list goes on.
The reason I suggest the vet trip is because some dogs on their first heat cycle because of immaturity may not release enough eggs... the belly looks huge and full of pups but may not be.
One of the most tragic events is when a bitch has 1-2 pups and they are so huge they cannot pass them ... the pups dies, and the bitch dies.
Emergency c- sections can often be too late and the cost of such is staggering. Here in the states $3000- $4000.
Yes dogs have been having pups for thousands of years... all animals....People too.... but when they are your companions and you love your animals giving them a bit of care up front can really save you and them heartache.
Your vet can do an ultrasound or x-ray for very little so you know what to expect.
Things do happen. My last litter my Anatolian had 11 pups and ended up with hypocalcemia. It was a long 3 weeks we almost lost several times. I am equipped for these things and have experience yet I was still on the phone with my vet at 3 am multiple times....
Above all, I don't need to know the hows, or whys of the matter... I do however ultimately care that momma dog and owner come through this.
Just make sure you are well prepared.
Yeah and that is why we euthanize tens of thousands of dogs a year. A person SHOULD care where each pup goes. I do suspect the poster does care.
DutchBunny03
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The female dog has BEAUTIFUL markings!!!
When one has a litter of pups from mixed breed dogs, one NEVER knows what they will end up. The key is what genes are dominant or recessive or co dominant/ co recessive. By the numbers one can say something like 1/4 of a certain breed characteristics , if those genes are dominant that trait will be experessed, while another pup in the same litter will inherit genes that are recessive so that pup will turn out totally different in most respects. The recessive gene can hide for genereations then suddenly pop up totally unexpected. In other words, a TOTAL CRAP SHOOT from pup to pup.
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mustangrooster
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OK the whole LGD thingo? Put it aside. I would never sell the pups labeled as an LGD, I would never sell Heidi labeled as an LGD and I would NEVER sell the sire labeled as an LGD (Not that I'm ever going to be selling Heidi or the Sire). I highly respect those people who spend hours and hours working on a true LGD, and I'm not going out and ruining that good name of an LGD by selling pit mixes as them.
I never intended to sell them as LGD's, and I think a lot of you took the whole LGD thing the wrong way which again has started a debate. Apologies, I should have explained more clearly.
Either way, Heidi is coming along nicely, the bulge in her tummy is slowly starting to grow, shes getting there.
I never intended to sell them as LGD's, and I think a lot of you took the whole LGD thing the wrong way which again has started a debate. Apologies, I should have explained more clearly.
Either way, Heidi is coming along nicely, the bulge in her tummy is slowly starting to grow, shes getting there.
Goatgirl47
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I hope she has a smooth, easy birth (if indeed she is pregnant)!
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Well I have to chime in. I breed,show and groom dogs. It is hard for even an experienced breeder to tell if a dog is pregnant in the first4 weeks. Dogs go through the same hormonal changes wether they are pregnant or not. We call it a false pregnancy. I have been fooled many times. The only sure way is to go in for an ultrasound at 4 weeks. And even that is not foolproof.
