Ketosis-Do they ever completely recover?

[Roll farms]

Whether it is or isn't Listeriosis, this is not a case of 'best diagnosis wins'...I just didn't want her / them / the vet to overlook a possible issue.

The first goat I had w/ Listeriosis, came down w/it 2 months after she recovered from Tetanus, and I had to figure her diagnosis out myself, my 'good' goat vet was out of town.....

The second one had it 3 days after a debilitating bout of Urinary Calculi.

Which leads me to believe it's an opportunistic bug that can flare up when a goat is already down....like from kidding / ketosis.

Whatever it is, good luck w/ her. *crossing fingers*

 

[FunnyFarm]

When I was reading the articles on Listeriosis I noticed they said a change in feed could also bring it about. I did change to the Nutrena from Purina Goat Feed around March 10th. I'm just trying to think everything thru.

The vet gave me more penicillin which is the same as the one recommended in the article & more Thiamin shots so he said she will be covered in case it is the Listeriosis along with the Ketosis.

I get what you are saying about the "positive" on the grain. I do offer free choice minerals, the Manna Pro with Amonium Chloride for the boys. I also top dress the feed.

She has always been thin compared to my Buck & 2 wethers who are on the pudgy side.:/

I just had her out in the pasture for a couple of hours. I have to stay with her because she won't eat without her babies there & in her condition she isn't able to protect them. She ate alot of grass n such but still has the blank stare & no right turns.

Thanks for all the input I needed to hear some advice, to calm my nerves.

 

[cmjust0]

Whether it is or isn't Listeriosis, this is not a case of 'best diagnosis wins'...I just didn't want her / them / the vet to overlook a possible issue.

Well... ...my experience with goats is that it often comes down to "best diagnosis wins" since actual, confirmed diagnoses tend to be few and far between.

My not mentioning the possibility of listeriosis was actually rooted in a problem that I consider to be equally common and equally detrimental....having a list of 29,382 things that a given goat's problems could be.

Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other I suppose.

 

[ksalvagno]

It's ok, CM, other people can be right.

 

[cmjust0]

It's ok, CM, other people can be right.

I know, but it's just so rare in my world that I'm unaccustomed to it.

TOTALLY J/K.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

It probably wouldn't hurt to give her some CMPK also.

 

[FunnyFarm]

CMPK?

 

[Roll farms]

She's referring to this....

http://goats.wetpaint.com/page/Hypocalcemia+-+CMPK+Kitchen+Recipe

Meant to treat this...

http://kinne.net/hypocal2.htm

It's good info to have for future reference, but I don't think that Hypocalcemia is part of the problem at this point.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

She's referring to this....

http://goats.wetpaint.com/page/Hypocalcemia+-+CMPK+Kitchen+Recipe

Meant to treat this...

http://kinne.net/hypocal2.htm

It's good info to have for future reference, but I don't think that Hypocalcemia is part of the problem at this point.

I don't think it's hypocalcemia but there's been some discussion about how CMPK can also help out with ketosis under the theory that ketosis and hypocalcemia can be linked. Here's an article about it.

I personally don't feed any alfalfa (or other calcium rich foods) preparturition, but many people swear by it.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

How is she doing? Any updates?