Khaleesi's Kidding Thread - Babies Born!!!

[klarie curole]

I give my bottle babies a bath when there in my house they get used of it

 

[Southern by choice]

I'm sure someone will probably wanna smack me for saying this (sorry Southern), but lightly dusting with Diatomaceous Earth (not pool grade, use ONLY food grade or, in a pinch, pharmaceutical grade) works great for lice. Our dogs had a huge problem with lice (basically mange), and they are doing worlds better. I tried vet recommended shampoos and they didn't help at all, the DE did.

DE works great but it is not fast acting and takes far longer to get rid of the pesky critters. We use DE on straw/bedding more of as a preventative. Although that is our protocol this year we had creepy critters come in on straw... yep they can come in on your straw . We avoid straw at all cost... we rather use low quality hay for this very reason. Alas this year we had to get straw and grrr mites.

My issue with DE is more of a time thing. We do farm consultations and management evaluation... all I can say is people will battle and battle something because they don't want to use a "chemical" or a "de-wormer" and in the end so many goats are suffering needlessly.
Goats so anemic they are on deaths door but ignorant owners feel it is cruel to give a dewormer or treat with permethrin... When you see this it makes you sick... dead animals because they MUST do all natural. Kids with lice/mites can get so anemic they die. DE does not effectively treat BURROWING mites.DE is great but sometimes it may not be enough.

People whose goats have bottle jaw and they do not act quick and say well I'll get a dewormer on the weekend... or next payday.
I have had to hold my tongue a few times but some I have said well if you're gonna wait that long she'll probably be dead by then anyway so maybe you won't need it afterall.

Disbudded 2 week old kids of a friend and they already had mites! She had no idea.... often people don't notice til evidence is substantial and for a kid that can mean death. She acted fast, burned all bedding treated her 2 does and kids... fresh bedding and DE down.

 

[thailand]

Still awaiting reply to my previous post guys Holding off worming her till I can confirm the dosage. Thanks

Hello again. Well I'm now thinking I might just give the Kelamectin 1%. I've worked out her weight according to Fias Farm at 84 pounds. So am I correct that the dosage for her is 3.8cc (working on 1cc per 22 lbs)?

Can I mix this with something like banana (which she loves), or must it be shot down her throat?

Also - I think she might have lice as she's rubbing herself along fence lines a LOT, and both her and the kids are shaking their heads some. Will Kelemectin given orally for worms also kill lice this way at the same time? As well, she has had a clear runny nose for a while. Doesn't seem to have developed into anything though. Might this be a problem?

Thanks

 

[Southern by choice]

How are things? Haven't seen you around.

 

[Ferguson K]

 

[Latestarter]

 

[sadieml]

@Southern by choice, @Goat Whisperer, @babsbag, et al, can anyone answer Thailand's questions about worming that she repeated? I don't know the answers, but I think the lack of response may be the reason we haven't heard from her in a while.

 

[babsbag]

I hope that she just got busy with the new kids and didn't leave because no one confirmed her dosage. The medication she is using is just something we don't even see in the US so I think we are a little hesitant to recommend what we don't know.

IF that wormer is like Ivermectin then the dose I use is 1 cc / 40 lbs but I know that others use a higher dose.

 

[Latestarter]

I don't think (hope) she would take a non answer as a personal affront... I would guess that she's just got her hands full with all the kids and the new animals and such. Hope she's doing well.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

x2

Although nobody gave the dosage, several members did give great suggestions. Several told her that she needs to talk with the breeder and other breeders in her area. We don't live where she does, we shouldn't be expected to have every answer.

I know others gave her the recommended dosage for the fenbendazole, and she said that She'll hold off for a while.