KIDDING SUPPLY LIST & Kidding NOTES

[Sally Sunshine]

can colostrum be stored for next year emergency if so doesnt that take away from kids? if it can be stored that long HOW? Thanks! I was just reading some of the book I got by pat coleby very interesting stuff about trying to keep does on feet to birth and also ACV (potassium) and how much it can help in the long run during labor and deliv. The chapter is fairly small about kidding though.

 

[OneFineAcre]

Generally speaking, most does will make more than the kids will use.
You can freeze colostrum.
We usually will milk a little out of a doe in the first day or so if we see her getting tight and freeze that.
And then maybe 36 hours after they are born, milk her out pretty good and then freeze that as well.

We have some does that do stand when they kids, but I think most probably lay on their side.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Thanks, do you know typical time periods they run colostrum?

 

[Southern by choice]

Yes you can store colostrum. Freeze in ice cube trays... once frozen store in freezer zip lock and label... replace every year.
Some of our does do stand, others lay down... whatever they want to do is fine by us.
If we have a doe that is having a long labor and is tired.... for some does they may be in stage one (barely noticable) but it still affects the body, we will actually give nutri-drench. If they suck it down they need it if not then they don't.
Our goats are not raised on sweet feed or molasses so they don't like it BUT when they need it they will take it eagerly.
We have had a few does that just got wore out with second stage... we gave drench and within 20 minutes they were pushing the kid out.

Oh, make sure you have a stool, or cinder block or something for them to stand their front legs on... often several days before and all the way up to kidding they may need to manipulate the kids inside for birthing. Climbing and stretching is how hey do this. They sometimes will step on the stool wiggle and arch.... they are positioning.

 

[Pioneer Chicken]

can colostrum be stored for next year emergency if so doesnt that take away from kids? if it can be stored that long HOW? Thanks! I was just reading some of the book I got by pat coleby very interesting stuff about trying to keep does on feet to birth and also ACV (potassium) and how much it can help in the long run during labor and deliv. The chapter is fairly small about kidding though.

I have her book too and love it! I gave my goats ACV consistently before they kidded (this was two or three years ago). First time the placentas came out so fast! On another note, I give mine an herbal dewormer with 2 tablespoons ACV and every other week 5-6mls of Cod Liver Oil. They love that mix (well, two out of three them do)!

 

[OneFineAcre]

Yes you can store colostrum. Freeze in ice cube trays... once frozen store in freezer zip lock and label... replace every year.
Some of our does do stand, others lay down... whatever they want to do is fine by us.
If we have a doe that is having a long labor and is tired.... for some does they may be in stage one (barely noticable) but it still affects the body, we will actually give nutri-drench. If they suck it down they need it if not then they don't.
Our goats are not raised on sweet feed or molasses so they don't like it BUT when they need it they will take it eagerly.
We have had a few does that just got wore out with second stage... we gave drench and within 20 minutes they were pushing the kid out.

Oh, make sure you have a stool, or cinder block or something for them to stand their front legs on... often several days before and all the way up to kidding they may need to manipulate the kids inside for birthing. Climbing and stretching is how hey do this. They sometimes will step on the stool wiggle and arch.... they are positioning.

Never heard or done that with the block or stool.

 

[Pioneer Chicken]

Oh, make sure you have a stool, or cinder block or something for them to stand their front legs on... often several days before and all the way up to kidding they may need to manipulate the kids inside for birthing. Climbing and stretching is how hey do this. They sometimes will step on the stool wiggle and arch.... they are positioning.

How neat! Did not know that but my Lamancha has done it when pregnant!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Yes you can store colostrum. Freeze in ice cube trays... once frozen store in freezer zip lock and label... replace every year.
Some of our does do stand, others lay down... whatever they want to do is fine by us.
If we have a doe that is having a long labor and is tired.... for some does they may be in stage one (barely noticable) but it still affects the body, we will actually give nutri-drench. If they suck it down they need it if not then they don't.
Our goats are not raised on sweet feed or molasses so they don't like it BUT when they need it they will take it eagerly.
We have had a few does that just got wore out with second stage... we gave drench and within 20 minutes they were pushing the kid out.

Oh, make sure you have a stool, or cinder block or something for them to stand their front legs on... often several days before and all the way up to kidding they may need to manipulate the kids inside for birthing. Climbing and stretching is how hey do this. They sometimes will step on the stool wiggle and arch.... they are positioning.

Wow cool stuff! I have a big bottle of drench, was thinking for kids not does so glad I got it! I breed English Springer Spaniels and that part about the pushing out after 20 sounds like the BREEDERS EDGE CALCIUM PLUS paste I use. I swear by that stuff! I didnt take my cell out, its pouring now but I want to get pics again of them since its a week after the last images. I will post pics of my gang below

This is the message I sent to Mike earlier today.... NOTE THE butt part!

Pheebe has a tad more goop. And Pando has hay suck to snooch pulled off was stickyShe doing this weird butt tilt bouncing. Not sure what her Prol is. She was doing it while standing eating hay. Just was weird. I ivermectin all of them earlier.
Ligaments the same
Gave warm water to goats thinking they would pee n could use the ketones strips of course no pee then started to rain.

Both slow and waddle
wont jump up on anything, and I caught pandora layin on the ground.
My goats have so many things out there to lay on they NEVER lay on the ground, I have never seen them do it!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Oh forgot to mention I have some stumps in there but they may be too high so I will take the kids stools out too.

 

[Pioneer Chicken]

And Pando has hay suck to snooch pulled off was stickyShe doing this weird butt tilt bouncing. Not sure what her Prol is. She was doing it while standing eating hay. Just was weird. I ivermectin all of them earlier.
Ligaments the same
Both slow and waddle
wont jump up on anything, and I caught pandora layin on the ground.
My goats have so many things out there to lay on they NEVER lay on the ground, I have never seen them do it!

Does it look kind of like she's arching her bottom? If so, sounds like she's in labor. Are you sure her ligaments are still there? Do they feel hard, super soft, almost gone, or can you feel them at all?