Lalabugs 2021 kidding thread

[B&B Happy goats]

You know they will have them at the most inconvenient time...doe code at its best lol, good luck to you and I hope you get to be there for the birth, with many does being born

 

[lalabugs]

Mary gave birth last night. Day 149.

Mary started pushing around 8PM last night. After an hour of her pushing hard with no change, I went and checked on her. Her cervix was one finger dilated. Let her go a little longer. Called the emergency vet. I was not sure what to do or how long to let her go.

I was advised to try to manually manipulate her cervix.

I was able to manually dilate her. Mary gave birth to a HUGE doe!!! She started pushing but again was having trouble. Checked her again, kids head was back. Got him lined up, she shot him out. He was tiny!! He was not even a pound. Something was wrong with him. As I was drying him off. He was not making noises, he was not moving at all. When he took a breath his stomach would lift. He stopped breathing on me multiple times. After 5 minutes of trying to get him to breath, he passed away.

I will get pictures of the doeling later today. Still waiting on Kate. Her udder is not full today. Marys udder never got huge or shiny. I am really hoping that Kate has a normal birth with no complications like Mary.

Mary is now retired from breeding. This was a horrible experience for Mary and l. After Mary raises her doeling, she will be retired. Mary will be a pasture pet with Jasper.

 

[lalabugs]

My daughter just took this picture.

 

[Daxigait]

My daughter just took this picture. View attachment 80265

beautiful! these type of birthings are part of it. for future reference you can put a little bit of lute on your lubricated glove when you need to get a cervix to open. in the future I would never wait that long after a doe starts pushing to check.
I'm sorry about the little one, but it definitely sounds like something was really wrong.
since she had a difficult birth I would suggest you drench her with some oral cmpk. I give a full size dough 50 to 60 cc's for 3 days it will help with bringing on the milk and preventing milk fever. Also if you had to get in there much you might give her a good dose of penicillin if you have it, and some oxytocin.
Congratulations!

 

[Daxigait]

PM me if you want a number to call if you have any issues with your next breeding I'm not an expert, but I'm definitely learning every year and I have someone who mentors me it's just a chain.

 

[lalabugs]

I have had does take up to an hour to pass their plug. Which is why I was waiting. As soon as I felt her cervix, I had a heart sinking feeling. Got on the phone with the emergency vet. It's an hour and a half drive to the vet that will see goats. No one local sees goats. The vet was adamant on getting her cervix open. If we couldn't it would have been an emergency trip for a C-section. That's if she would have made it that long.

If she has any signs of infection we will take her to the vet. I do not give antibiotics just in case. I do not have antibiotics on hand. In CA you can not get antibiotics over the counter.
Mary passed her placenta with no issues. Mary has milk, just not a huge udder.

I am hoping Kate has a non complicated labor.

 

[Daxigait]

I have had does take up to an hour to pass their plug. Which is why I was waiting. As soon as I felt her cervix, I had a heart sinking feeling. Got on the phone with the emergency vet. It's an hour and a half drive to the vet that will see goats. No one local sees goats. The vet was adamant on getting her cervix open. If we couldn't it would have been an emergency trip for a C-section. That's if she would have made it that long.

If she has any signs of infection we will take her to the vet. I do not give antibiotics just in case. I do not have antibiotics on hand. In CA you can not get antibiotics over the counter.
Mary passed her placenta with no issues. Mary has milk, just not a huge udder.

I am hoping Kate has a non complicated labor.

I hope you're right. the cmpk is just simply calcium and potassium and things that they use up or lose some people give it and let them try to drink it but the taste is not the best. another thing that can help with the cervix if it happens earlier sounds like you know but for others who might not is giving dose of calcium. of course by the time she was where you say you had to do it manually.
I too hope the next one goes well.

 

[lalabugs]

Yes, calcium can help. I appreciate the advice. I am following vet instructions.
Mary has no signs of infection right now. Mary and her baby that my daughters are calling Zel are doing great.

Today Kate is day 149. Her udder is not full. However shes acting odd. She does not want us anywhere near her.

 

[lalabugs]

Kate's udder has doubled since yesterday. Anxiously waiting. Kate is at day 152. First picture yesterday, second picture this morning.

 

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Think were getting close.