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[Bruce]

Sorry you had such a bad night Joe.

For clean out, I'm not planning to put steps at the high end doorway. I'll just run the wheelbarrow up next to the door and shovel/sweep everything right out into it, then roll it off to either raised planters (not built yet), or the compost pile.

Do you expect them to use that opening for ingress/egress? How high up off the ground is it? I'm thinking about older goats jumping down and maybe damaging themselves. Also maybe not able to get up and in well. I'm guessing with your joint issues, you will use only the low end doorway.

I bought 4 gallons of the red paint at wal mart....am shocked that i got chicken house , and the 12x21 goat house painted with less than two gallons. ....at $12.00 per gallon pre mixed.. @ Devonviolet

The question isn't always about how cheap a gallon is but also how long it lasts. If you have to repaint every other year as opposed to every 6 years it may not be a bargain, especially if painting is a time consuming event.

 

[B&B Happy goats]

Sorry you had such a bad night Joe.


Do you expect them to use that opening for ingress/egress? How high up off the ground is it? I'm thinking about older goats jumping down and maybe damaging themselves. Also maybe not able to get up and in well. I'm guessing with your joint issues, you will use only the low end doorway.


The question isn't always about how cheap a gallon is but also how long it lasts. If you have to repaint every other year as opposed to every 6 years it may not be a bargain, especially if painting is a time consuming event.

No kidding dear Bruce....thats why i cover it with water based polyurethane, lol...already had that on hand @Bruce

 

[Mini Horses]

WM probably has the same paint in white. I get mine at Lowe's, white & barn red. It lasts quite well. 4 years out and good coverage, color, etc. Believe I pd in the 15 per gal range. Paint hAs really gotten expensive!! I need to do the trim out on a coop -- hey, only 3 yrs, no rush The building is still firm and doing well even without the decoration. Somehow there was always "something else" that had to be done using the time & $$ for that. Goat fence? Probably the material is in my salvage stack, if I look.

 

[Latestarter]

thats why i cover it with water based polyurethane, lol...

HUH? Have never heard of this... What does the urethane do? Water based urethane over water based paint (latex) seems to me would be the same as doing a 2nd coat of paint...

 

[B&B Happy goats]

HUH? Have never heard of this... What does the urethane do? Water based urethane over water based paint (latex) seems to me would be the same as doing a 2nd coat of paint...

Gives it super water and fade protection.... they are two diffrent animals....always put the finished protection coat over hand painted furniture, ....and have even used marine grade urithane.....and any wood that is going near the ground i use clear flex seal before it gets painted...no fade or wood rot at our place, here or any home i have remodeled. ...

 

[Bruce]

You can put water base over oil but generally speaking not the other way around.

Marine grade urethane is pretty sturdy stuff, not cheap though.

 

[Latestarter]

I was just curious as the latex paint is adhered to the wood surface, so painting urethane over that, it has nothing to adhere to except the paint itself... So if the paint isn't good quality to start, I didn't see what difference the urethane would make. I didn't think that would really "add" anything to the overall. I thought it would be the same as a 2nd coat of paint... Urethane over stain is a bit different situation... I'll take/accept B&B's explanation since she's evidently done this before and it's proven beneficial to/for her application(s).

So I spent the large part of the day napping in my recliner with football games or NFL channel on for "white noise". Hauled myself upright later in the afternoon and brought the goats down a cereal snack. They've taken to all going in the shelter in the afternoon around 2ish to nap. So if I go down silently and be careful not to rattle the chain against the metal gate, I can sneak into the pasture and get around the pen fence before they all run out into the pasture with me. This way I can lay out a line of cereal along the fence and they all stick their heads through to eat, thus not trampling the cereal or fighting trying to control/own/eat it all (Bang!).

With the real wet weather we've been having and my aches and pains, the goats hooves have really gotten pretty bad. So tonight I went down a little early for evening chores with 2 pockets full of animal crackers/cookies and my hoof shears. I actually have a couple of goats that don't like the cookies but the rest of them act like they're a drug, and are addicted to them. Luckily the 2 goats that aren't fond of them came right up to see what I had so I was able to get them trimmed up first thing. Then the rest I was able to do were pretty simple. The yearlings, for all but one, was their first time. So, when I caught them and they realized they were caught, they fought like hell trying to get away. Once I got them clipped to the fence and fed them a couple of cookies, they settled down and the actual trimming went well with no real fighting. After finishing and releasing them, with a couple more cookies, you'd never know I had tortured them at all... They came right back up to me for more cookies. I did accidentally clip into the quick on a couple of hooves. They bled a bit, but I'm sure they'll heal up just fine. I'm going to need to check up on them every 2 weeks or so to try and get their hooves back the way they should be. Now that they have a way to get out of prolonged exposure to wet, things should improve.

By the time I'd finished the first 8 girls (4 adults, 4 yearlings), it was getting dusk, and not really clear enough for me to do the last 2 girls. I mean I probably could have fought through it, but there's always tomorrow & PB&J is about the most skittish goat I have. When I catch her by the collar, she freaks and starts screaming her lungs out which affects the other goats and the dogs. So Dot and her grand-doe, PB&J, will get done tomorrow, before the potential rain showers arrive tomorrow night. I still have to do the boys as well, but their pen was a solid cover of poo mud several inches thick until recently when it has mostly dried out. It's still not solid, but enough that I hope to get their hooves done tomorrow as well. RJ is another 250-300 pound challenge until he's clipped to the fence. Should prove an interesting adventure for sure. He's really quite laid back once I start on his hooves though, so hoping for the same response as previous. He's another real sucker for food too. If I stand at the fence with food, he'll climb the fence and put his head over top to get at it. As long as he's eating, I can clean his ears, touch his face/head/etc and he doesn't even flinch. Without food, you'd think I was a sparring partner for him.

So there ya have it... My Christmas eve plans!

 

[B&B Happy goats]

Hope you are feeling better or at least rested....on the paint, when you use laytex paint...especially on raw wood, you are basicly laying a thinn layer of liquid laytex (if rolling...brush gives thicker coverage) then when we use plywood or another type of wood that is exposed to extreme elements , by adding the poly on top...you are kinda laying a layer of "water barrier" on top....you can paint laytex over oil but can't paint oil over laytex, ....after a three year stint with a retail store and studio where we did furniture...you have to learn paint quickly...three years ,tweleve employee's. ...not for me, moved on and took my tools, $$$ and closed both locations.... amen

 

[Mini Horses]

My older buck is a pussycat to catch & ties well until you move around him....then he wants to move WITH you. After collar lead has his head tied to fence, I use a long lead line clipped to the fence, put him against the fence, then pull it under his belly & tie to fence over his back. So he has a band around his back half to keep him from moving around. Not tight & he doesn't fight, just stands where he should. Do one side, turn him around to rehook and do other side. He'll stand and eat hay while I trim his hooves this way. At least the wet ground has softened the hooves a little. This buck has iron hooves, I swear. I should probably be inspired to do my guys tomorrow. We'll see.

Darned bucks, they still smell and it isn't really pleasant!!

 

[greybeard]

HUH? Have never heard of this... What does the urethane do?

It's a sealer and that's generally what it is called and where you will find it. With the rest of the sealers. My house's pine ceiling as well as the rest of the natural wood in my house was sprayed with it as is the exterior of my shop. You will often see it used on colored concrete floors as a topcoat and sealer.