Let's play guess how many - they're here! puppies

[samssimonsays]

Seems like she wants to brag

She does! She is so proud of them and wants everyone to see them.

 

[samssimonsays]

Updated puppy weights as of 1 week old! I put them in birth order with Rumely Jr., Sophie, Luna, Dolly, Mia, Sadie, Bernard and Jeffrey bringing up the rear lol. Everyone is growing and gaining wonderfully and by the day.

 

[Latestarter]

They sure are beautiful pups Really glad she's such a tolerant mom. She does have a right to snap at/warn Rumley or the cats and such if they are overly rambunctious around the pups... She's just trying to protect them after all. There'll be time for "rougher" play when they're a bit older and larger.

From the pictures you've shared, it appears that only one will have the long collie snout (dark one near mom's butt in 1st pic)... one other looks like a mix of both (very top one in 1st pic), but the rest all appear they'll have the shorter snout of the pyr... What say you to that? Does it look that way to you or am I seeing things? Trick of the lighting? They're all gorgeous!

Edit to say the pics referenced are from the earlier post with larger pics.

 

[samssimonsays]

They sure are beautiful pups Really glad she's such a tolerant mom. She does have a right to snap at/warn Rumley or the cats and such if they are overly rambunctious around the pups... She's just trying to protect them after all. There'll be time for "rougher" play when they're a bit older and larger.

From the pictures you've shared, it appears that only one will have the long collie snout (dark one near mom's butt in 1st pic)... one other looks like a mix of both (very top one in 1st pic), but the rest all appear they'll have the shorter snout of the pyr... What say you to that? Does it look that way to you or am I seeing things? Trick of the lighting? They're all gorgeous!

Oh yes! SHe does have every right lol. thankfully it has only been once for Rumely and that little growl to warn the shepherd pup. The all brown one seems to be the longest face if that is the dark one you are talking about? Bernard lol. He seems to be the only collie nose of the bunch then Sadie, Sophie and Mia seem to have more of the mix while Dollie, Rumley Jr, Jeffrey, and Luna all seem to have the pyr/bernard heads. I am anxious to see how they all turn out in that sense!

 

[samssimonsays]

Dad and babies

Bernard with a collie looking nose

Mia with a bit of a mix

Jeffrey with more pyr

Here is Sadie with a mix and dolly with more pyr (I think)

Sophie looks to be a mix too.

They are constantly changing every day tho so I think only time will tell

 

[Latestarter]

You know, you have accused Rumley of being a "failed LGD" and that may NOT be the case at all... He just hadn't had that gene kick in until now. What you described with the young GSD and how he floored her then guided her away from the pups as well as how he looks after the pups indicates GOOD LGD behaviors! Enough force to "stop" any bad behaviors before they could get out of hand and guarding the pups. I'll bet if you start keeping him out with the goats for longer periods of time and then let him be there/help during kidding, you'd have what you wanted! Of course to become a true LGD, he'd have to become more goat focused, which the kidding would help with. He'd attach to the kids and want to protect them just like the pups.

 

[babsbag]

I think that @Latestarter may be right on with that LGD instinct in Rumley. I think that is amazing and sweet that he helps and she tolerates it, sounds like those pups have some great parents. My female LGD is great with people around her puppies but she doesn't let dad near them for the first few weeks. She growls...he leaves...pretty simple. That Stella let the shepherd even look at them is really surprising, maybe she knows that Rumley has her back.

Had a Dalmatian with newborns one time and the neighbor girl reached in to touch them even though I had told her not to. The dog slowly grabbed her by the wrist and just held her arm, no growl, no aggression, no teeth, just a simply NO. Fortunately the girl didn't scream or get freaked out, she realized that the dog wasn't going to bite, might have been different if the child had panicked. Dogs are smart animals.

They sure are beautiful pups. Glad you don't live near me

 

[goatgurl]

awwwww, puppies. so glad everyone is doing ok. and they are sooo cute. congrats. the pictures are great

 

[samssimonsays]

You know, you have accused Rumley of being a "failed LGD" and that may NOT be the case at all... He just hadn't had that gene kick in until now. What you described with the young GSD and how he floored her then guided her away from the pups as well as how he looks after the pups indicates GOOD LGD behaviors! Enough force to "stop" any bad behaviors before they could get out of hand and guarding the pups. I'll bet if you start keeping him out with the goats for longer periods of time and then let him be there/help during kidding, you'd have what you wanted! Of course to become a true LGD, he'd have to become more goat focused, which the kidding would help with. He'd attach to the kids and want to protect them just like the pups.

I think you are right. Until recently, he had no clue. Wouldn't bark and was virtually stunted at about the 12 week old mentality until MAYBE a month ago?.... He does however focus his love on even us too much and tends to dang near love us to death with his weight and excitement. He is the kind of dog that I just don't know if he could or would ever sleep outside, not on the couch or in bed with us.... I wouldn't mind him being out there with them when we were not home though! That would be a huge relief BUT.... he has done a number on the fence, a couple times.... All because he wanted out with us.

 

[Latestarter]

Training! If he's there to watch/"assist" with kidding, and help clean them with momma goat, and bond with them, I'll bet you wouldn't be able to pull him away from them! I'll bet the St. Bernard part of him is what held him back... when you described his actions above, I was thinking what is she talking about "failed LGD?" You've got a keeper!