Mini cheviots

goodhors

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Might sound silly, but hauling in this heat will be hard. You could consider
hauling at night, without the sun beating down on the trailer. If you have an
SUV or van, putting the lambs inside the air-conditioned vehicle in dog
crates might make them more comfortable to haul. Also save a bit in
gas money not taking the trailer!! Tarp the floor, crates on top of tarp.
We had some 4-H kids who brought their little Shetland sheep to our
meetings in the crates, inside the air-conditioned van.

An option we use for the horses in heat, long hauls, is to ice the bedding.
This involves getting some bags of pine shaving bedding from the farm
store, to put on the floor of trailer. You want some depth to the bedding,
probably only going to use half or less of the trailer for lambs
anyway. I wouldn't open the bags until almost to the sheep farm, so
they don't blow around in travel. So a couple bags of shavings should be
enough for 2-3" depth in the trailer. Save the extra if not needed, for
use another time.

Then stop at a party store before you get to the sheep farm, get a 2-3 large
bags of ice Slice open the ice bags, dump them onto the spread shavings on
trailer floor. You then mix the ice into the shavings, get ice covered.
Continue on to the sheep farm and pick up the lambs, put them in on
the iced bedding. Lambs will get cooled off thru their hooves, laying on
the bedding, so any heat, high temps, will have less effect on them, should
lower travel stress.

I would give my lambs hay, hang a water bucket, for travel. Other folks
would rather not feed for travel. I figure if they will chew and eat, drink, they
will settle, get working on their cud to quiet down.

Our horses like the iced bedding, are much more comfortable traveling
in extreme heat, over hot roads. They arrive much "fresher", not
distressed when we finally get to our goal. Having cool or cold hooves
lowers the body temps a bit, which is real helpful with the work of riding
in a trailer and a hot day.

Do clean the iced bedding out of trailer soon, since the wet bedding,
enclosed trailer heat, can get molds going fast. We dump the damp/wet bedding
into stalls, horses use it, stalls are cleaned daily, so nothing is wasted.

Shavings or deep sawdust will keep the ice pretty frozen, even in the
summer heat. We have found the ice still solid when cleaning out the trailer
the next day, over 24 hours since we put ice in for a 100F day of hauling.
Horse was bright, alert, when he got home after 14+ hours of driving. One of
"THOSE" kind of road trips from H3LL !! We humans were whipped!!
 

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did you go overboard with the fencing? Pretty sure mini cheviots will be about 20 some inches tall once mature-- and you have $10,000 worth of fencing 4' high...
 

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kfacres said:
did you go overboard with the fencing? Pretty sure mini cheviots will be about 20 some inches tall once mature-- and you have $10,000 worth of fencing 4' high...
It's wire mesh with wood posts. What is the big deal? You think they should only get short fencing because they have small sheep? What about predators? What about planning ahead and getting a dual purpose fence in case they get more/other/different animals?
 

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kfacres said:
did you go overboard with the fencing? Pretty sure mini cheviots will be about 20 some inches tall once mature-- and you have $10,000 worth of fencing 4' high...
Regular Cheviots have at LEAST a 4-5ft vertical leap, so you NEED good fencing!

I expect the mini Cheviots to also have a great vertical leap, so the 4ft fence is needed to restrain their enthusiasm!

Good fencing pays in restraining your animals safely, not "letting" accidents happen. I think the new fence, stable
to put them inside, useful, safe gates, is BEAUTIFUL.

Having well built fence is pleasing to the eyes, looking out the house windows. Good fence will probably be protective
as well, preventing other animals from getting in with the sheep. And if you put the fence system up well to start, you
don't have to be out tinkering with it to fix stuff all the time. I can't see if there is electric inside the mesh, to prevent
any fence rubbing. But with sheep, electric inside should be considered to keep the mesh tight and no heads caught.
Might want electric on top of the mesh, so dogs could not jump over the fences. Fences are made to keep things OUT,
as well as contained. Short fences are often not a barrier to predators. Electric is something you learn to use with
experience, tricky sheep, for a lot of reasons.

We had our fencing professionally installed. It has proven to be one of our best farm investments. Little to no work
in maintaining it, animals are securely inside. No injuries from loose wires, fences down to escape. Gates work well,
in handy locations for various field configuration changes.
 

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electric fence is virtually the biggest waste of time involving grazing sheep with any kind of wool on them- or trying to keep rams/ freshly weaned lambs seperate. They are also the most labor intensive.

Those little toy poodle cheviots-- will go right through, or under those gates.

According to your logic- regular cheviots need 4' fencing-- I don't argue-- I've seen my ewes standing still hop right over pipe gates and cattle panels-- plus more. I don't see much of a reason to need a 5' tall fence for a sheep that's only 20 inches tall. The bigger they are the harder they are to keep in-- jumpers. Smaller can't jump
 

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"I don't see much of a reason to need a 5' tall fence for a sheep that's only 20 inches tall."


Apparently the OP does. Last I heard its each of our own perogative as to how we spend our money. The OP doesn't owe anyone an explanation of why they used the materials/design they did.


Bluebird, I think it looks great. Hats off to all of your hard work!
 

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I've got a strand of electric fence on the inside of my wire mesh fence and it absolutely keeps the sheep off it. I hated sheep rubbing on the fence, getting wool wrapped around the wires and bending the fence when they rubbed on it. A strand of electric fence is just the ticket. VERY cheap to install, easy to install, and the sheep absolutely respect it. They also respect the electronet fence I use to divide grazing areas.
 

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aggieterpkatie said:
I've got a strand of electric fence on the inside of my wire mesh fence and it absolutely keeps the sheep off it. I hated sheep rubbing on the fence, getting wool wrapped around the wires and bending the fence when they rubbed on it. A strand of electric fence is just the ticket. VERY cheap to install, easy to install, and the sheep absolutely respect it. They also respect the electronet fence I use to divide grazing areas.
electronet is completely different-- both in style and cost.

Try weaning lambs with a 3 or 4 stand hot wire, as the only thing seperating them.

Your sheep respect the hot wire b/c the woven is there.
 

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kfacres said:
Your sheep respect the hot wire b/c the woven is there.
And that is exactly what goodhors was referring to when she brought up electric. Nobody but you is talking about using 3 or 4 strands of electric as the permanent fence.
 
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