Misfitmorgan's Journal - That Summer Dust

[misfitmorgan]

This is worth looking at as well. It appears to be one of the online modules for teaching goat nutrition from Lanston University in Oklahoma.
http://www2.luresext.edu/goats/training/nutrition.html

 

[Ferguson K]

Cobalt and copper are related. They also have similar symptoms, as does overdose.

My vet ran tons of tests, and if I ever correctly she ran some bloodwork to A&M. They found it and verified it with a soil "sample" I sent them. The vile was small, thumb sized, and apparently that's all they needed.

 

[babsbag]

I send my samples to CAHFS for mineral analysis. My goats have a mineral block, loose goat minerals, Bo-Se before freshening, and copper bolus 2x year. They were still deficient in Selenium and copper was very low. Some kids still needed Bo-Se at birth. My well has semi-hard water but not high in iron or Molybdenum, which are the two big offenders. I have been doing multi-min injections for a year and oh what a difference.

 

[misfitmorgan]

Cobalt and copper are related. They also have similar symptoms, as does overdose.

My vet ran tons of tests, and if I ever correctly she ran some bloodwork to A&M. They found it and verified it with a soil "sample" I sent them. The vile was small, thumb sized, and apparently that's all they needed.

If i have to try to get the vet to do it
I will call and ask them but they always get so confused when I ask them things. I called to see if they treated lambs once and the lady on the phone said no we dont...then called back 45 minutes later and said yes they do treat lambs. The vet I ended up using told me they treated lambs, no problem and then at the second appointment told me she was their first lamb

My part of Mi is copper, cobalt, molybdenum, iodine and selenium deficiant

 

[misfitmorgan]

The only test i can see there for cobalt is the heavy metals- extended screen which is $57 each and tests for arsenic, barium, beryllium, cadmium, cobalt, chromium, copper, iron, mercury, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, lead, zinc, thallium and vanadium. There is also a trace mineral screen which is $18 each and tests for copper, zinc, iron (unbound), magnesium, calcium, sodium, potassium, phosphorous. Then selenium test would be another test an is $18 each.

So if i wanted to run it all it would be $93 each goat...pretty sure i would only do one.

 

[babsbag]

I have never had the heavy metal done on live goat as CAHFS wants a liver or kidney. My dead goats that have been necropsied have always been on the low side for copper. They do copper with the trace mineral screen but the blood test is not as accurate. I always do the selenium too. My biggest offenders are selenium, and copper, and sometimes zinc. I pick the goats that look the worst and the ones that look the best to test.

 

[misfitmorgan]

I have never had the heavy metal done on live goat as CAHFS wants a liver or kidney. My dead goats that have been necropsied have always been on the low side for copper. They do copper with the trace mineral screen but the blood test is not as accurate. I always do the selenium too. My biggest offenders are selenium, and copper, and sometimes zinc. I pick the goats that look the worst and the ones that look the best to test.

The test details section says they can use blood or urine for the heavy metals test...apparently they also do feed. That's just the only test ive seen that covers cobalt on their list. Since they play together i am thinking if your low in copper your also low in cobalt but that could be completely wrong.

 

[misfitmorgan]

DH finally let agreed to let me sell Ruger. I listed him for sale at 3pm on tuesday and he was sold within 2hrs, and picked up last night. I'm sad to see him go but excited i can go out and do things in the barn alone again and not have to worry about him being a butt. Missy and Lucy are suppose to be leaving this weekend as they are both sold and just on hold but we shall see.

 

[NH homesteader]

Well that's a relief. No sense in having an unsafe animal around. He went fast!

 

[misfitmorgan]

Yes he did..i sold him for $75 because he is a butt. The guy that got him is breeding his 5 nigerians and then taking him to auction. He is approx 300lbs with horns over a foot long so time for him to go. My polled buck should be ready to breed next fall and in the mean time the mini nubian buck is still here if i need to breed something but atm everyone should be bred who is gonna get bred.