Mystang's Homesteading Circus

[mystang89]

You think the tires would still work their way out of the ground even being filled with concrete?

What you're explaining kinda sounds a bit like a buck fence set up which I am thinking about too. Thanks for the help!

 

[greybeard]

Tires work themselves out of the ground, that's why you can't toss them in a landfill.

Not filled with 5" of concrete, as he stated he had read about. Tires usually come up, because their shape allows air (or landfill gasses) to be trapped in the tire. They are lighter than the soil covering them. Approx diameter of a car tire (bead to underside of tread) is somewhere around 24". Filled with 5" of concrete, it will contain .04 cu yds, which is 1.8 cu ft. An 80 lb sack of quickcrete is .5 cu ft.
1.8/.5=3.6 bags of quickcreteX80(lbs)=288lbs.
That, is a weight value far above any surrounding or over bearing soil for the same volumetric area..commonly referred to as volumetric weight. The only place it would go is down, until it encountered a strata more dense than itself..like rock.

3 cowpanels, overlapped and fastened securely together to make a 40' span. Then drive rebar at an angle as deep as you can to make a zig zag pattern, cris-crossed at the top and bottom, fasten them together. Then fasten to cowpanels. Run wire top and bottom, fasten to cowpanels. Make a triple H brace on each side of the spring. Maybe overkill, but that's my idea for what it's worth.

I have doubts about this..if there's one thing I know, it's fences versus flowing water.
That, is a sacrificial fence that will have to be constantly rebuilt.
It will last only until the first time the branch or draw runs full.
The less total wire surface you can present to flowing water, the better your chances of success.

 

[Wehner Homestead]

We had a place where the fence used a tire filled with concrete. It was here when we bought th farm. Constantly had to push it back in place as the water pushed it forward. Got a gulleywasher and it makes its way halfway the length of the property. Still don’t have a good fix...

 

[greybeard]

We had a place where the fence used a tire filled with concrete. It was here when we bought th farm. Constantly had to push it back in place as the water pushed it forward. Got a gulleywasher and it makes its way halfway the length of the property. Still don’t have a good fix...

I assume it was not buried but was just on top of the ground?
In that instance, I agree. Not heavy enough and too much cross section exposed to current flow for it to remain in place. Moving laterally across the ground horizontally is a lot different than floating or otherwise coming up out of the ground vertically.

 

[mystang89]

Read everything, thanks for the comments everyone and the math @greybeard .

I was out today with my auger drilling holes where I could. Even without hitting rocks those three holes were more difficult than drilling all the holes across my front 5 acres. Bunch of clay. Got it done though. Only feel like I've been hit by a truck, not a train. Still have to wait for my sister to give me back my fence puller.

... Till tomorrow

 

[Mike CHS]

It had to feel good to at least make some progress. I have a couple of sections where I make sure I have a bunch of shear pens.

 

[Baymule]

You are getting ideas, something is bound to work for you. @Mike CHS has lots of experience fencing in rocky ground.

 

[Latestarter]

Mike does, but the master of rock fencing has to be Bruce by far... I mean Vermont (like a lot of New England) is nothing but rock... Pretty much why the old time farmers had so many rock walls.

 

[Mike CHS]

I have rock but I have also seen enough pictures of Bruce's place that I quit griping about mine.

 

[mystang89]

Seven years. We raised 4 rabbits, 3 does and 1 buck, for 7 years. My wife and I were all on board with it. We raised them so we could feed our growing family. She never liked the butcher part so left that to me which I was fine with. Something apparently changed after moving. She continually said it wasn't worth the money when we had kits but just keeping rabbits and not mating then was senseless. It takes 3 rabbits to feed this family but with as healthy as that meat is and the amount of kits our rabbits gave is we always had plenty. A couple of days ago I got rid of all the rabbits. Not too happy with it but thats how it is.

I put the t posts in the ground for the fence today. Wow. Only 3 out of 16 were able to be pushed in by the bucket of the tractor. The rest has to be hammered in with the sledge hammer. It's days like today that I'm grateful to God He has given me the strength to be able to do things like this. Not easy time. Also dug a hole for one of the tires
I figured I'd use a truck tire for the post closest to the spring since it holds more concrete. Wasn't even about to get it 3 inches in the ground before I hit the bedrock. The wood posts were set today so everything is ready except for the wire. Hopefully it should be done by next week.

@greybeard Would that Front End loader lever that raised and lowers the bucket also be responsible for the loader not raising unless gas is given?