Necropsy - no photos - help

[casportpony]

your post on this thread that has the "pathology of older laying hens" photo the picture for fig. 10 looks like what the intestines looked like.

Sounds like ascites (fluid in belly) from some type of cancer maybe. Sorry for your loss.

 

[Laodicia]

Sounds like ascites (fluid in belly) from some type of cancer maybe. Sorry for your loss.

Thank you :/
I have looked through this site at almost all of the different poultry problems: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publi...tension-ascitis-syndrome-in-broiler-chickens/

the ascitis seems accurate. except aside from the white spot discoloration the heart looked normal.

this site: http://www.cresa.cat/blogs/sesc/les...es-a-la-cavitat-abdominal-duna-truja/?lang=en
though it is a picture of pig insides. the fourth picture the lumps that are on this reproductive tract are exactly like what I saw, but I was sure it was intestine.... I was likely just cancer she was very old.
Thanks for your help

 

[AngieNPeeps]

Thank you :/
I have looked through this site at almost all of the different poultry problems: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publi...tension-ascitis-syndrome-in-broiler-chickens/

the ascitis seems accurate. except aside from the white spot discoloration the heart looked normal.

this site: http://www.cresa.cat/blogs/sesc/les...es-a-la-cavitat-abdominal-duna-truja/?lang=en
though it is a picture of pig insides. the fourth picture the lumps that are on this reproductive tract are exactly like what I saw, but I was sure it was intestine.... I was likely just cancer she was very old.
Thanks for your help

Ascities is from liver damage/ failure, basically. Since she mentioned the frail liver, I am not surprised to hear of ascities - fluid in the peritoneal cavity.

Whatever the cause of the cysts , I expect there were toxins built up and liver failure was occurring [which came first? Idk this disease]. The heavy breathing (so obvious it wasn't respiratory in your pic, as there was no gaping mouth) from the pressure against the diaphragm. --I have patients that we send for paracentesis and I'm familiar with the cycles.

 

[casportpony]

Chickens don't have diaphragms, so the heavy breathing was most likely from the fluid pressing on the various organs.

 

[Laodicia]

Chickens don't have diaphragms, so the heavy breathing was most likely from the fluid pressing on the various organs.

I assumed that it was just pressure from the liquid after we realized it was there

 

[casportpony]

I assumed that it was just pressure from the liquid after we realized it was there

Yeah, and some will get so bad that they can hardly walk and they will do open mouth breathing. just had to euthanize a turkey that was doing that.

 

[Laodicia]

Yeah, and some will get so bad that they can hardly walk and they will do open mouth breathing. just had to euthanize a turkey that was doing that.

 

[aart]

Ascites can happen with many different organ diseases.

Great references @casportpony !

 

[AngieNPeeps]

Chickens don't have diaphragms, so the heavy breathing was most likely from the fluid pressing on the various organs.

You are right! Totally nuts-- regardless, same idea... the diaphragm for us/ for them it's compressing and reducing expansion of lungs. But, even with the liver issue alone, seems likely metabolic acidosis and trying to blow off CO2 with the heavy breathing. Very interesting point-- thanks for bringing it to my attention... I think ribs /diaphragm.

 

[AngieNPeeps]

Thank you :/
I have looked through this site at almost all of the different poultry problems: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publi...tension-ascitis-syndrome-in-broiler-chickens/

the ascitis seems accurate. except aside from the white spot discoloration the heart looked normal.

this site: http://www.cresa.cat/blogs/sesc/les...es-a-la-cavitat-abdominal-duna-truja/?lang=en
though it is a picture of pig insides. the fourth picture the lumps that are on this reproductive tract are exactly like what I saw, but I was sure it was intestine.... I was likely just cancer she was very old.
Thanks for your help

Sorry you have had to deal with this. Thank you for sharing your experience so we can be aware, too.