New cow, any guess on breed?

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We had one like her when I was a kid. She was a Jersey, Ayrshire, Guernsey cross. She was a heck of a great little cow. Gave lots of milk for years and she had lots of lovely calves. She never got any bigger than about 800 pounds but she was able to drop huge babies and was with us for almost my whole childhood. Good luck with your cow.
 

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Hard to judge an animal's weight by a photo, especially an unknown breed. I don't personally know anything about Aryshire, but have seen some really heavy dairy cows. 4yrs and 800 lbs is hard for me to fathom, but again I am not really a dairy person. Beef cattle frame is different, but here's an 11 or 12 month old beefmaster/brangus cross that scaled right at 400 lbs and is (est) about 41" tall at the backbone.



From what I remember of Ayrshire tho, the color pattern can be just about anything red/white, and as has been stated, red dominant.

She is a nice looking animal for sure. If you don't know the history of her, and do have her bred, watch her a bit more closely than you might otherwise. Good luck!!
 

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I appreciate the input yall. Very helpful and good food for thought. I had thought she was possibly 2ish, and a first calver when I saw her enter the ring. She has the look of a young one to me. Hopefully I can get a good look at her teeth here soon. She also has had her horns cut, and the bases are approx 1 1/4" across if that makes a difference.

Her height has me more confused about her breeding, then anything. She's very short. 40-44" at the hip at the most.

I plan on keeping an eye on her, not knowing her history and such.

As far as her being 4ish and not having had a calf, who's to say why...? I have NO clue. Of course, thats a problem with buying at the sale barn. No history! Its possible she had one previously, and just keeps form very well. I am very happy with her confirmation and overall structure. A nice little dairyish girl in a sturdy frame!

I got some better pictures today. Things didn't work as planned, housing wise (dadblastid bull :he ) so she's in w/my Jersey and a beefer cow, plus the Simmental bull (at least until I can see some of the beefer girls in heat, then which he'll go back w/them). But you can see the size difference. I'm 5'9" and the bull's topline comes to just below my chin. She's a good bit shorter then he is.

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And yes, she's in very good condition, Lil Miss Rolley Polley :gig
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She does look part beef breed with these new pictures. At first I thought that was a Galloway bull but just a shaggy head, lol.
 

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77Herford said:
She does look part beef breed with these new pictures. At first I thought that was a Galloway bull but just a shaggy head, lol.
There is a shorthorn ranch around here somewhere, but they breed them for beef. In fact, talking to the boss man yesterday, he mentioned his brother has had a herd of shorthorns for ages. Some folks in this area have been breeding "Red Baldies". I was trying to think of what the usual is around here, vs what she might be (with as many auctions in a 200m radius, she probably came from within 50m of the sale barn location) Her Legs are a dead giveaway that she's 1/2 beefer, of some variation. Very thick boned.

The Bull just has a shaggy, curly haired head, yeah :lol: Its been cold lately, and everyone looks like walking fuzzballs :gig


Do any of yall know how to get them dang sale tags off her wither area? The stuff they use is like cement. I don't wanna pull em off, OUCH! :ep Aside from just lettin em fall off eventually, I reckon I could cut em off :idunno
 

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greybeard said:
Hard to judge an animal's weight by a photo, especially an unknown breed. I don't personally know anything about Aryshire, but have seen some really heavy dairy cows. 4yrs and 800 lbs is hard for me to fathom, but again I am not really a dairy person. Beef cattle frame is different, but here's an 11 or 12 month old beefmaster/brangus cross that scaled right at 400 lbs and is (est) about 41" tall at the backbone.

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400 lbs at 11 or 12 months sounds VERY small for that age. I was thinking 800 lbs was small for an Ayrshire too. Were you thinking it soudned big?
 

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aggieterpkatie said:
greybeard said:
Hard to judge an animal's weight by a photo, especially an unknown breed. I don't personally know anything about Aryshire, but have seen some really heavy dairy cows. 4yrs and 800 lbs is hard for me to fathom, but again I am not really a dairy person. Beef cattle frame is different, but here's an 11 or 12 month old beefmaster/brangus cross that scaled right at 400 lbs and is (est) about 41" tall at the backbone.

[url]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2029/img2318small.th.jpg[/url]
400 lbs at 11 or 12 months sounds VERY small for that age. I was thinking 800 lbs was small for an Ayrshire too. Were you thinking it soudned big?
I agree completely. I acquired her 1 week before this pic was taken, as well as her 1/2 sibling male in a trade for some fencing work I did for one of my family members. (same sire-different momma cows) They were part of an overstocked, under culled herd that was on very poor 30 acre pasture, drought stricken, not well taken care of at all. Still sucking, never wormed, no vaccinations, fed a little hay and pellets with the adults about once/week, and the adults kept the 2 "calves" away from the feed bunks for the most part. I thought she had some potential as well as the male, so I took 'em on. They are now doing better in a 8-10 acre pasture to themselves, fed 2x per day as well as mineral supplement. As soon as I can get them up front to the pen and chute, I'll have the vet come out and check them out. The male:


Now, back to the original subject.

Yep, she's definitely rolly-polly. As wide as she is tall.
 

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Now that I see much better pictures of her she definitely looks like she's around 2 or 3 years of age or older, not 15 months like I had guessed before. And, I should also take back the comments about her being Ayrshire: She most likely could be a Shorthorn-cross. Now that I think of it she reminds me of one steer we had that looked similar to her. I guessed he had to be Shorthorn-Red Angus-Hereford cross. Here's a pic of him:

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Notice a few similarities?

Her head structure and the way her lips are are typical of a mature cow, not a heifer and she looks to be a mature cow. Maybe you should get her preg-checked too to see if she's bred or not, as quite often when you get a cow that is rolly-polly like that she could be already bred. But that's just a guess on my part.
 

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WildRose, you stole my cow :lol:

She's bred, sleeved 6months at the sale. I'll be keeping a close eye on her, due to her size, for calving complications down the road, when the time comes. But she has a good set of hips on her, and a good wide stance, which is a good sign.

Greybeard, I hope your two new additions do well!!! They look like theres some good potential there!

Underculling and iffy breeding make it tough to grow a healthy and vigorous herd :/
 
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