New goat owner *Prego or not prego*

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20kidsonhill said:
According to your dates, she would be due end of this month or sooner if she was bred to one of the nubian bucks. I don't see anyway she could be pregnant and due in 2 or 3 weeks.

Then you have the other buck that was put in with her until the end of October. That would put her latest due date the end of March. I could see that being more likely, If she is pregnant at all. I am not seing anything screaming that she is for sure pregnant. But if she was only 3 months pregnant it may still be a little hard to telll.

I believ Toggs are seasonal breeders and more likely to come in heat in the fall. So it would make sense that she didn't come into heat with the nubians and came into heat a little later.
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If she's pregnant she has a ways to go. That belly could be food or baby at this point, it's hard to tell.
 

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And to answer your question about milk, Togg milk is best for cheesemaking because it's more tangy than say, LaMancha or Nubian milk. I would not want to drink Togg milk if I had the choice, to be honest.

You could always try to sell her and get a more "tasty" goat.
 

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Queen Mum said:
Papers and all that is just not true. A well fed, well cared for goat will give you years of service. SO don't worry. However, the different breeds do provide different levels of butterfat content. And within each breed each doe is different. Crossbreeds often produce great milk. So fear not! And you can breed your does "up" to get better does later on. Just feed them good hay and good grain. Make sure they get top quality minerals and are vaccinated and wormed regularly. You may end up with some really good producers.
My theory, and the one I tell people ALL the time, is that you can't milk papers! If you're into showing, etc., then papers may be the way to go, but I, personally, want a healthy doe that produces lots of yummy milk :)
 

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Thank you everyone. It looks like I may need to give back the togg anyways. She has been pretty aggressive with the lil guys, butting them and biting them. She wont even let them eat. The hubby has to stand outside and monitor during grain time so she wont run over and eat the boys food. I do believe ill try a different breed next time around.
 

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Sinistershelly said:
Thank you everyone. It looks like I may need to give back the togg anyways. She has been pretty aggressive with the lil guys, butting them and biting them. She wont even let them eat. The hubby has to stand outside and monitor during grain time so she wont run over and eat the boys food. I do believe ill try a different breed next time around.
You are more than likely going to have that same feeding problem, regardless what breed doe you bring home. Goats are one of the meanest livestock breeds I have worked with as far as displaying dominance, establishing who is in charge and not sharing feed troughs.
 

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I dont doubt that at all. I meant trying a different breed for the milk. I know no matter what there will be dominance issues, its the same with my chickens too. Im just gonna need to divide their living space is all. No biggy
 

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20kidsonhill said:
You are more than likely going to have that same feeding problem, regardless what breed doe you bring home. Goats are one of the meanest livestock breeds I have worked with as far as displaying dominance, establishing who is in charge and not sharing feed troughs.
I don't agree AT ALL. It entirely depends on the individual animal. I have met mean goats and gentle goats. I have some very sweet gentle animals who won't push anyone around. I have ONE dominant goat who will nudge the others out of her way. And that is all. We do have (on this farm of about 50 goats) ONE doe who is very pushy and aggressive with the other does and she is being sold for that very reason. All the others are pretty good about sharing. They vie for space at the feeding trough but they are NOT mean in any way, shape or form.

Bucks can be competative, but it is very goat specific.
 

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Well this particular one is pretty mean to the dwarfs. She goes out of her way to butt and bite them. She wont even let them eat their own food. I know animals will normally display that aggression if they were here first but she is the new one and acting like that.
 

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She needs to be sent on to another herd. You don't need that in your herd. But you will find that you can get gentler does that aren't like that. Some breeds and some goats within each breed are much easier to get along with. Obers are easy going by nature. Alpines tend to be a bit more aggressive, but within the breed you will find some real sweethearts. Mixed breeds are a mixed bag. Ask the breeder. A good breeder will be honest about temperament. But paper won't make a bit of difference. Nor will price.
 

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My Saanen is a bit people shy(has been since we got her) she runs away from us and doesn't want to be stroked in any manner...However, she is competely passive with the other goats, if the "bwaaaa" at her or shake their heads or push at her, she just gets out of the way, will not fight back. My Oberhasli is the sweetest, gentlest human goat possible, but a terror at feeding time with the other goats. She follows her own goat code:
1. If I see it first-Its mine.
2. If you see it first it is mine.
3. If it goes in the dish it is mine first, when I am done, you can have the rest.
4. If you are eatting although I may have claimed to be finished, I may want it back.

She will actually loose food due to running between dishes trying to stake a claim to them all.

My nubian is one of the sweetest bucks I have ever been around. He will push around the Saanen when it comes to meal time, however he is absolutely terrified of the Oberhasli.

Anyways, before I got off track, my point was it may just be a matter of pecking order that is not established. Or if she is pregnant and the due as close as she should be, could it be she is possibly starving? You just got her reciently, maybe with the good food you are feeding her she is trying to make up for what she has been lacking?
 
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