New kid, weak and cold

[momto6Ls]

I'm in uncharted territory.
Our first doe kidded last night. Evidently I didn't get them enough minerals. Sigh. We were expecting 2 (by vet ultrasound) and there were three.
First one - still born. About 1/3 of normal size. She blocked up traffic, of course, which caused the rest.

2nd - I thought she was gone. We pulled her out and roughed her up. She is with us. Kicks, cries out occasionally, has taken some colostrum. Not much sucking, but some and she is swollowing. Hasn't tried to stand, but we have had her in arms most of the time. She is dry, and exhausted. I'm guessing we pulled her out about 5:30 and it is 8:00 here. We have been messing with her most of the time.
Ok, so now what do I do? Her temp is 100.4. We were using a hair dryer. I just took a blanket out of the dryer and wrapped her in that. She's in the house with us.

Her eyes - she doesn't seem to shut them. I mean I have seen her shut them, but it is like she can't rest. My daughter says they are red now.

I'm super worried about pneumonia because she was so slow getting started. She has sneezed some.

Please help. I have not dealt with any of this before.

3rd - remember how we were expecting 2? My husband gloved up again, after we had worked on number 2 for a while, just to make sure and ended up pulling out a third. If we had known...but it was to late. She was gone. Fully formed. Beautiful.

Anything we should do for mama? She got molasses water, some grain and Alfalfa. My daughter milked her out. She's a Saanen, and with triplets she is going to have lots. Haven't seen an after birth yet, which is wierd...

THANK YOU

 

[B&B Happy goats]

@OneFineAcre @Goat Whisperer

 

[Hens and Roos]

sorry to hear of your kidding troubles . Do you have a vet that you can call to come out and take a look at your doe and kid? How is the kid doing as far as temperature now?

@OneFineAcre @Southern by choice @Goat Whisperer @B&B Happy goats @babsbag

 

[B&B Happy goats]

sorry to hear of your kidding troubles . Do you have a vet that you can call to come out and take a look at your doe and kid? How is the kid doing as far as temperature now?

@OneFineAcre @Southern by choice @Goat Whisperer @B&B Happy goats @babsbag

Not sure what the others would do but I would give both B 12, red cell, and / or first arrival for the kid...right now anything energy related....wait for the others to post

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Give them some JumpStart plus paste.
Great for kids as you describe. I’d also rub some nutridrench on their gums. Keep warming the kid. Keep it stimulated and once the temp is up work on giving it a bottle.

 

[momto6Ls]

I’m sorry I never replied here! I had another forum that answered in real time - within a minute or so, so I stayed there.
Thought I’d update for others who see this issue. I sold 2 does this summer and they also kidded with problems - they both had QUADS. We were told twins and triplets by ultrasound. We have never had quads! The new owner was more clueless than me (said she had 25 years experience.) She lost several of the kids, but I don’t think she did anything for them except bring them in the house. I did tell her about the deficiency when I sold them, but she says she didn’t remember.

anyway...I put a blanket in the dryer and wrapped her in it - she warmed right up and stayed in the blanket. Gave her oral B complex, selenium & vit E gel, and colostrum from mom as soon as she would take it, followed with more every 2 hours. It took some time to get stronger, but within 8 hours she was walking down the hall, and ready to go back to mom. I followed with more B complex the next day and Replamin plus every week until 12 weeks. People on the other forum were panicked that she wouldn’t bond with mom, but she went right out and was dam raised - bonded fine.

I’ve learned my lesson. Replamin for all every week! The newborns got “dollops”, the other pregnant does got a 5 day loading dose before kidding, and it made ALL the difference. I also changed loose minerals for long term. I’m hoping for much better kidding results next season.

 

[YourRabbitGirl]

sorry to hear of your kidding troubles . Do you have a vet that you can call to come out and take a look at your doe and kid? How is the kid doing as far as temperature now?

@OneFineAcre @Southern by choice @Goat Whisperer @B&B Happy goats @babsbag

Here are some additional tips for you.
Baby goats are either mother-raised or bottle-fed, and it's important to know which yours is. If a baby goat has been raised by its mother, then it will nurse from her until about 6-8 weeks of age. If it's been bottle-fed, then it will drink from a bottle until 6-8 weeks of age.

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

I’m sorry I never replied here! I had another forum that answered in real time - within a minute or so, so I stayed there.
Thought I’d update for others who see this issue. I sold 2 does this summer and they also kidded with problems - they both had QUADS. We were told twins and triplets by ultrasound. We have never had quads! The new owner was more clueless than me (said she had 25 years experience.) She lost several of the kids, but I don’t think she did anything for them except bring them in the house. I did tell her about the deficiency when I sold them, but she says she didn’t remember.

anyway...I put a blanket in the dryer and wrapped her in it - she warmed right up and stayed in the blanket. Gave her oral B complex, selenium & vit E gel, and colostrum from mom as soon as she would take it, followed with more every 2 hours. It took some time to get stronger, but within 8 hours she was walking down the hall, and ready to go back to mom. I followed with more B complex the next day and Replamin plus every week until 12 weeks. People on the other forum were panicked that she wouldn’t bond with mom, but she went right out and was dam raised - bonded fine.

I’ve learned my lesson. Replamin for all every week! The newborns got “dollops”, the other pregnant does got a 5 day loading dose before kidding, and it made ALL the difference. I also changed loose minerals for long term. I’m hoping for much better kidding results next season.

What did you change your loose minerals too? I haven’t been doing Replamin...my does kid Jan 29 and feb1...can’t get to TS until then..but I should start it then? Did you go over to the goats pot....I have been a long time mem...but I will take breaks because, honestly...they get on your case and drive you bonkers. My doe limped on Monday...I got worried and they put it in my head she had toxemia.. I trimmed her hooves up....but that was when I went out at 11...doe is fine. The goat spot is great...just, try not to let them boss you around...I’m ease prey to that


im very sorry about your losses....this is why I’m so nervous. I’m sorry the lady who bought your does wasn’t more cautious. Hopefully 2020 will be better

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Baby goats are either mother-raised or bottle-fed, and it's important to know which yours is. If a baby goat has been raised by its mother, then it will nurse from her until about 6-8 weeks of age. If it's been bottle-fed, then it will drink from a bottle until 6-8 weeks of age.

Here are a few additional ideas. Baby goats can be quite successfully co-raised with mama and bottles. We sometimes get a doe with a large litter, or a baby that just isn't aggressive enough to fight littermates for their share we have successfully offered those kids a bottle. They stay with mom and they get a little boost from the supplemental bottle. As a result they become extra tame (a.k.a. pushy!). I have a mixture of small and full-sized goats and we tend to go longer than 6-8 weeks. Pygmy and/or Nigerians get a minimum of 8 weeks on milk - usually even more. Mid-sized and full-sized are given bottles a minimum of 10 and usually 12 weeks. The exception being a mixed litter of bucklings and doelings. We tend to have to watch out that the bucklings don't get a little too 'friendly' and have separated them appropriately.

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

Ok..here’s a question...I’m hoping to keep one kid. Sell the rest. My goats aren’t registered, etc..they will be sold for pets. But is it better to sell wethers or bucks? I couldn’t sell my buck, proven buck, in November, for the life of me! Probably bad timing.