New LGD has super weird mannerisms... not sure about her...

[bcnewe2]

I was seeing dogs that were worried about all the running energy expending around their charges. More confusion than not liking her. But I don't have near the experience as Southern does.

Do you know the history of her? Was she ever with other dogs or goats? How was she kept before you got her.

I recently had my daughter over here with her new rescue terrier mix. She is very pushy with no manners in the house and no training outside so had to be on a long line.

My dogs didn't like what she was doing but they didn't want to hurt her, only correct her rudeness. Out side she seemed to do the same thing as this dog but ending with snapping each time at the other dogs. They didn't like it but again, they didn't go after her just stayed out of her way.

I worked with her for the time she was here. She ended up sorta horse lunge lining around Jesse who was confused but willing to try and play with her. Lucy still tried to end her chasing game with snaps at Jesse. Jess at one time got "large" and sorta of stood over her but didn't hurt her.

By the end of the day she went after Mick (my nasty boy) and he laid her out on the ground and stood on top of her showing his teeth. I let him go, he got off and she settled down. Finally laid down and rested. Like she needed someone (another dog) to tell her how to behave.

Some might of seen this as aggression but I saw it as lack of knowledge how to behave with any sort of rules. I suggested an obedience class and to live with the idea nothing in life is free. Lucy has to work for any and all privileges plus work for meals. Sort of tough love for dogs.

It wouldn't work for an LGD quite the same but I think the lack of structure in your dogs life has ended up with what you have. I still feel she is workable if you put the time into her.

Do you have a pen that you can secure with hot wire to let her have some time to run around burning energy while not upsetting everyone else? She might not respect fences but one with a hot wire on top might make a believer out of her.

Good luck

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

How much history did they give you?
Where was she prior to you getting her, for how long, where was she kept? Details, even if there are few.
When was she spayed?
Her coat and hair type looks off so possibly crossed with something. Possibly
The humping thing is not always a dominant thing. There are other reasons dogs will do this and females are more prone to this.
I can tell you Diego is giving all the signs that he is not liking this dog in there. I think if Diego was a few months older he would have her by the neck and on the ground. Neither of your LGD's are ok with her.
The above info would be very useful.

Here is all the prior history I know on her;

She was found running around the streets and the neighbor took her in and fed her, the neighbor "had" her close to 8 weeks but was a frail old woman that couldn't handle her, had her in her backyard with the rest of the dogs. Prior to this no one has any idea of her history or where she came from or what she had exposure to.

She was EXTREMELY thin when we picked her up. I could feel every rib and vertebrae, (though now she is finally gaining). I think she could easily be 15 pounds heavier.

The lady I got her from was a neighbor and got her from the old lady and had only had her about a week.

She was just spayed on the 14th, and we picked her up on the 15th, so it's only been 10 days.

We have been keeping her in the house at night because she was SO terrified of everything and we wanted her to bond with us and get used to us before we started keeping her in the pastures.

I will always defer to your wisdom Southern but from all their interaction I think Diego and Toli are more "unsure" about her rather than not liking her, they run around and play with her too with wagging tails, however, this was the first time they were in the pasture with the goats with her loose, prior to that all their interaction had been in the main part of the yard away from the livestock.

She seems to be doing better today. She freaked out the other day at a big rig that we could see and hear but was over 1/2 a mile away, got her shivering in her skin, but that was the last time I have seen her afraid, now she is just happy/ spazzy but still trying to get in and out of pastures, kinda like she doesn't know where she wants to be. I have been putting her in that same goat pen twice a day while I milk so she can burn off energy, she just has SO much of it! She has been REALLY good with the goats, no chasing, no biting or snapping and very respectful of their space.

 

[Baymule]

She is beautiful. I couldn't help laughing at the video, she was running and having a great time. I wish I had her energy!

 

[secuono]

OP, I'm used to these 'mannerisms'. Normal doginess. Nothing special or weird about it.

 

[Southern by choice]

WMR-

In the clip I really don't see much more than an excitable dog that is having a blast running around. Nothing unusual there. If this is constant than no that would not be good. She looks like a puppy that hasn't grown up yet. LOL

There are 2x in the clip where Diego is "posturing" and yes they are both "unsure". Diego, at one point looks as if though he is using some restraint , mostly out of the fact that he is still young and is not "sure" about what the dogs intentions are. Watching Diegos movements was interesting. He will make a fine LGD as he develops and gains maturity! That is what I meant about them not liking this. Your younger female is young and is showing some timidity, given her age and the rough shape she was in when you got her that isn't a negative. She looks great by the way! You've really done a great job with her. Keep in mind "playing" outside of the goat area is one thing, inside is another.

It would be best to give her some structuring, this will build her confidence. For the times when she will be alone and until she is trustworthy and showing work-ability I would suggest a covered run. Large and tall. I would not tether or chain this girl.

As far as the noises... not knowing how long she was wild and on the run this could take time and perseverance.
Ultimately it appears she has missed out on key developmental points in her life.
You are very observant... you stated "she doesn't know where she wants to be" ... that is where you come in! LOL
Working a little basic obedience with her will give her purpose and structure and build trust between you. Where there is trust their is confidence. Purpose, confidence and a job are the most important factors in the LGD.
Structure and habits would be the important thing here. Just putting her out and leaving it at that is not what she needs right now, but I know you know that.

I would recommend allowing her to run run run and get her energy level down before you start the routine of morning chores etc, this will allow her a bit more self control and move with you as you do your morning routine. This repetitive activity will build confidence and then again whenever you do afternoon evening routines. I would not allow that ripping and running in any livestock areas at all.

 

[SabaiFarms]

She looks super happy in the video. When I got my first LGD he was very scared for the first few nights but as he learned his territory and the 'normal' sounds he got more and more comfortable. Now he's never scared and knows exactly where the property boundaries are.

The one thing I've learned about LGD's is that they respond to 'good job' better than 'bad job'. My suggestion is any time she's doing anything 'correct' make sure to tell her she's good. I bet she'll calm down faster.