ksalvagno
Alpaca Master
Hey CM, any updated pictures?
New LGD puppy. :D
- Thread starter cmjust0
- Start date
I'm been around and heard about alot of great pyrenese the last 10 years, and my educated opinion is that females make some of the best LGDs in the world but unless your fence will keep the dog in too, males arn't worth the gas to pick them up for free. And often times around the breeders around here do give the males away for free while the female pups go from 250-300$ ea. I've heard of and known so many males that wondered off, got hit by cars, and even trains just with in a few months of being employed. I've never heard of a female roaming off in anyway and my conclusion is that the males have a good nose and strong sex drive and any time they catch a wiff of a female in heat they're gone.
lilhill
Loving the herd life
Congratulations on the new pup ... but she looks so sad in that photo. 
Would love to see an updated one. She's a beautiful animal and from what you've said thus far, should make a great LGD.
I really need to start thinking about getting another one for my Great Pyr, Daisy, to help train. I have just come to depend on Daisy so much to take care of everyone that it's one of those things I keep putting off.
Would love to see an updated one. She's a beautiful animal and from what you've said thus far, should make a great LGD. I really need to start thinking about getting another one for my Great Pyr, Daisy, to help train. I have just come to depend on Daisy so much to take care of everyone that it's one of those things I keep putting off.
Roll farms
Spot Master
Ahem....just wanted to reassert my place as 1st in line for a male pup.
When can I expect it???
When can I expect it???
Beekissed
Herd Master
I got two new LGDs this week! My old GP mix girl has failing health and may have to be put down soon, so I jumped on the free Newfie mix puppies in our local ads.
They look like pure Newfies and are adorable!
I've always wanted a Newfie since I was a little girl and, after reading up on the breed more recently, I'm very pleased to have found them.
They look like pure Newfies and are adorable!
I've always wanted a Newfie since I was a little girl and, after reading up on the breed more recently, I'm very pleased to have found them.
Roll farms
Spot Master
I have a newfie, Bee, and I agree they are great dogs....but I asked around before I fixed our male and was told they don't make great LGD's...they'll guard / alert, but they don't "bond" w/ livestock as well as an LGD should.
And since they're notorious softies, they don't do agression well.
I thought crossing him to our pyr would give me some awesome dogs...but the experts on all the Livestock lists strongly discouraged me.
We ended up crossing ours to an Anatolian instead and have been pleased w/ the offspring.
I'm NOT saying it won't work....just that it might not. I wish you luck w/ it though.
Also, to rittert3, our male pyr never left the fence once in 8 years. He was fixed at 7 mos. of age.... Edge (female, intact) has attempted to dig out once when in heat.
And since they're notorious softies, they don't do agression well.
I thought crossing him to our pyr would give me some awesome dogs...but the experts on all the Livestock lists strongly discouraged me.
We ended up crossing ours to an Anatolian instead and have been pleased w/ the offspring.
I'm NOT saying it won't work....just that it might not. I wish you luck w/ it though.
Also, to rittert3, our male pyr never left the fence once in 8 years. He was fixed at 7 mos. of age.... Edge (female, intact) has attempted to dig out once when in heat.
Beekissed
Herd Master
Roll, my acreage is small....one acre...so they don't have to live with the livestock out in a field somewhere. They just have to exist in the yard and not let other predators enter here.
I still have a great lab/bc mix that performs this function well also. As long as they develop a territorial stance towards any stray dogs or 'yotes that may want to investigate my sheep or chickens, I'll be happy.
So...how do you like your Newf? Can you post a pic of him and the offspring you got from the cross? I bet they look interesting!
I still have a great lab/bc mix that performs this function well also. As long as they develop a territorial stance towards any stray dogs or 'yotes that may want to investigate my sheep or chickens, I'll be happy.
So...how do you like your Newf? Can you post a pic of him and the offspring you got from the cross? I bet they look interesting!
Thats great about your male, roll, not so much about the female. I was just speaking on the GP's I have known and heard tell of locally. I often wondered about a neutered male staying closer but also wondered if it would take a away from his tenacity toward predators, I'm guessing this is not the case?
Roll farms
Spot Master
Ah, Bee...that makes sense.
I also dreamt of one day owning a Newf.
This is "Boogerman" on the day we brought him home....
A more recent pic...he's 5 now.
He is a good dog... he's a house newf. Probably not one of my better ideas....
that's a lot of hair to shed inside (we usually shave him every spring now) and he ate about half the furniture (and my glasses and the CUTEST brand new pair of shoes you've ever seen...grrr....until he got past the puppy stage). He does a great job of letting us know when someone's here and since I'm here alone a lot while dh is at work, he does make me feel pretty safe...he's harmless but sure doesn't look or sound like it.
The Anatolian x pyr litter...all 11 (12 born, one didn't make it....)
The one we kept, "Gus"...he looks pure Anatolian. He's a year old now.
You can see the parents (Tank and Edge) here:
http://www.rollfarms.com/id20.html
Razor, the fixed male we had....was just awesome. The kind of LGD who'd go up in the air after a low flying hawk or refuse to come in and eat until you'd 'seen' his latest kill (skunk, coon, possum, etc.). The one flaw he had was his agression to any people not 'us'....hence neutering him so young....but that didn't stop it. He bit one of my friends on the rear the last year he was alive for 'daring' to step into our barn. (The friend didn't know Razor was in there....
)He once nearly ground his nose / lips into hamburger when an idiot neighbor's dog kept taunting him at the fence....he was trying so hard to bite him he was mashing his soft tissue into the fence wire. He looked like he'd been attacked by a grizzly.
Fixing him did NOTHING to slow down his willingness to guard, and since he didn't worry about breeding, he was super-focused 'on the job.'
I just thought I'd point out that not *all* males try to leave....I think it has a lot to do w/ how bonded they are. He adored our old fat sheep Pokey....they did everything together. He guarded everything, but she was his 'pet'.
Beekissed
Herd Master
Roll, those are absolutely the most beautiful dogs!!! Your Newfie looks just like mine only bigger!!!
My GP mix female is a roamer and a rover. If she were not contained with invisible wireless fencing she would be roaming out each night, even as old as she is. She always comes home but she loves to roam.
Must be the lab part of her that does this....before we contained her wander lust I would get reports that someone saw her in a full and frozen point stance down by the river. She looks more GP than lab so this must have been comical to see!
My GP mix female is a roamer and a rover. If she were not contained with invisible wireless fencing she would be roaming out each night, even as old as she is. She always comes home but she loves to roam.
Must be the lab part of her that does this....before we contained her wander lust I would get reports that someone saw her in a full and frozen point stance down by the river. She looks more GP than lab so this must have been comical to see!
