New pullets need quarantine advice please :)

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I don't do quarantines and I find that the way most people do them is pretty useless anyway, but it makes them feel like they are doing something, so I guess they serve their purpose in that way....but it does next to nothing for the flocks.

Unless you can see visible symptoms of some disease process, it's likely your birds~if they have any sickness at all~are carriers and you wouldn't catch it in a quarantine situation anyway. I've never heard of anyone quarantining a bird or birds and actually isolating an illness in that manner before it entered their flock...maybe external parasites can be caught that way, but not anything internal .

I don't do biosecurity at all, as it too is pretty useless. We aren't running commercial flocks and, even if we were, you'll find that all their biosecurity measures are pretty much useless too.....it's the flocks that have all that hoodoo going on which are the very ones spreading diseases to all and sundry through the vectors that come through the commercial batteries and meat operations.

It's an overused term that has very little true meaning, as it's impossible to secure any animal population against airborne and vector born diseases.

So, no worries....put those birds together and concentrate on building immune systems and healthy soils instead of thinking you can keep your animals in some kind of germ free bubble. BYC has many "chicken experts"....usually folks who have had chickens for a small hand full of years and read some books by other self proclaimed experts who have done the same. All those I consider actual experienced flock owners~had chickens for 20-50 yrs or more~ left that site many years ago and would never return.

A yearly cull for laying each spring will net you more in the way of eliminating disease and parasites in your flock anyway, so tell hubby he's right....this time. LOL
 

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I don't do quarantines and I find that the way most people do them is pretty useless anyway, but it makes them feel like they are doing something, so I guess they serve their purpose in that way....but it does next to nothing for the flocks.

Unless you can see visible symptoms of some disease process, it's likely your birds~if they have any sickness at all~are carriers and you wouldn't catch it in a quarantine situation anyway. I've never heard of anyone quarantining a bird or birds and actually isolating an illness in that manner before it entered their flock...maybe external parasites can be caught that way, but not anything internal .

I don't do biosecurity at all, as it too is pretty useless. We aren't running commercial flocks and, even if we were, you'll find that all their biosecurity measures are pretty much useless too.....it's the flocks that have all that hoodoo going on which are the very ones spreading diseases to all and sundry through the vectors that come through the commercial batteries and meat operations.

It's an overused term that has very little true meaning, as it's impossible to secure any animal population against airborne and vector born diseases.

So, no worries....put those birds together and concentrate on building immune systems and healthy soils instead of thinking you can keep your animals in some kind of germ free bubble. BYC has many "chicken experts"....usually folks who have had chickens for a small hand full of years and read some books by other self proclaimed experts who have done the same. All those I consider actual experienced flock owners~had chickens for 20-50 yrs or more~ left that site many years ago and would never return.

A yearly cull for laying each spring will net you more in the way of eliminating disease and parasites in your flock anyway, so tell hubby he's right....this time. LOL
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Give your husband a rest. Tell him you want a Mikita cordless skill saw, with extra battery, cordless drill, with extra battery, 5 pound boxes of deck screws in 2", 3" and 4" for Christmas. A stack of 2x4's, wire, speed square, tape measure and sharpie and you'll be all set. Go make some noise and have a good time.
 

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Give your husband a rest. Tell him you want a Mikita cordless skill saw, with extra battery, cordless drill, with extra battery, 5 pound boxes of deck screws in 2", 3" and 4" for Christmas. A stack of 2x4's, wire, speed square, tape measure and sharpie and you'll be all set. Go make some noise and have a good time.
And give HIM tickets to a racetrack near you (is Pocano near you?)
 

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Just caught up with this thread, and will throw in my 'two penn'orth' (can never resist an idiom).
Quarantine rules are there for a purpose. They are set by those with the highest degree of knowledge, and should be read. However, sometimes it seems to me that those who wrote them did so to cover their own Super-Specialists a$$es. They will refer to the longest ever recorded incubation period for any infection and add on several more days for good measure. They also suggest that you pretty well need to go through a process of 'decontamination' similar to that in a nuclear accident each and every time that you visit the new arrivals. The quarantine rules, therefore, can be impracticable in a small-scale setting.
So....imported stock? Well, do you know who you are buying off, or they from a reputable and registered stock breeders who are not going to damage their reputation by selling you a couple of disease riddled birds/animals?. Maybe the rules can be bent. Keeping them separate for a day or two if they have been sold from a livestock event makes sense.....there are lots of animals/birds there and some of the breeders may not be so reputable.
New stock can need to be introduced carefully to old stock to avoid territorial disputes, so letting the 'residents' see and smell the 'newcomers' from behind appropriate wire for a few days may well be the way to go.
Quarantine for all stock? Not in my book. Every year I borrow rams from a neighbour (never need to borrow roosters, I breed too many of them!), and they go straight to girls. I know he keeps his animals to very high standards and would never send a 'dodgy' ram.
So, my opinion ? Look at the quarantine suggestions and then consider if it should apply to your purchase in this instance.
Oh, and remember that BYC can be something of a Haughty Clique who seem to have as a 'mission statement' the wilful shaming of us simple souls in order to further refine their shiny clique.
 

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Give your husband a rest. Tell him you want a Mikita cordless skill saw, with extra battery, cordless drill, with extra battery, 5 pound boxes of deck screws in 2", 3" and 4" for Christmas. A stack of 2x4's, wire, speed square, tape measure and sharpie and you'll be all set. Go make some noise and have a good time.
Oh he lets me do everything except the saws...I even used the nail guns when we built our last barn..and he was a contractor so he has the good stuff...it was the biggest gun and I loved it! But the table saw, band saw...I don’t know. I do use the saw-all. howeve you spell it...! :). Power tools are fun :)
 

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A contractor husband! My husband thinks duct tape fixes everything. I have the things I need to properly attach the wire racks to the back of the pantry door, but he attacked it first with tape-lots of tape. I left it there. Sometimes I have to let him be the hero, even though I hate looking at it. LOL I'm no carpenter, but I manage to make what I picture in my head, happen. He thinks I am a genius. I'm not, I just don't back down from anything. We did hire a contractor to build our 12'x54' screened porch, that was above my pay grade. We also hired the 36'x36' barn built, but I had all the materials.

Learn how to use the saws, Power tools rock!
 

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And zip ties! Cant forget zip ties - they hold everything that duct tape doesn't, lol!
Over here it's orange string....the plastic stuff that circles bales of silage, straw etc. It's used to hold fences together, hang gates, make temporary harnesses and even to hold trousers up. Due to environmental concerns with plastic, the orange string will be replaced by hemp/sisal etc. Somehow, it won't look quite the same holding up a pair of pants......

My least favourite tool? Probably sharp knives as I'm a menace with them....or maybe anything that's twee in the kitchen...got it, kitchen blow torches......
 

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