Newbie. Is this an OK plan? more Qs on post #5 @ worming

[TGreenhut]

Okay, this is what I know about worming,

safegaurd is very very safe, but you should try as much as possible to avoid worming the first 60 days, but you are past that.
Safegaurd wont do anything for lice/mites, but if you give it 3 x the label dosage 3 days in a row, it may help with tapeworms, and other worms.

Ivermectin(not ivermectin plus) will help with lice/mites, but it is recommended to give it as an injectable by our vet for external parasites at the rate of 2cc per 100lbs, We give it in the armpit area by the front leg. burns like crazy, repeat in 10 days. Wont help much with internal parasites given in this manner. But keep in mind if you goat has LIce, they will look anemic.

ivermectin is used for humans for worming, so probably not a real big deal if there is some carry over in the milk. That is my opinion, I don't have any medical background to back that up.

IVermectin does nothing for tapeworms, not saying that is your problem, just commenting on this. Ivermectin should be given orally for other stomach worms at the recommended dosage of 1cc per 25lbs.

You can use powders or sprays for external parasites. Co-Ral powder works well for lice. There are several other options. pyri

If your goat is having internal parasite problems and lice problems consider getting a hold of some Copasure and giving orally, 1gram of copper oxide rods per 22 lbs. Copper in the system really helps with lice and parasites and healthy hooves.

You are a good 30 days away from kidding so at this point, residuals from worming shouldn't be much of a problem in the milk, but I do know people who milk are using ivermectin as a wormer even while milking and drinking the milk.

If I cannot get a fecal, right now do you think it would be ok if I did your recommended treatment using safeguard and then powdered her for lice? I took all your other info into thought.

Thanks for all the help. I'm really stressed right now...

 

[20kidsonhill]

Okay, this is what I know about worming,

safegaurd is very very safe, but you should try as much as possible to avoid worming the first 60 days, but you are past that.
Safegaurd wont do anything for lice/mites, but if you give it 3 x the label dosage 3 days in a row, it may help with tapeworms, and other worms.

Ivermectin(not ivermectin plus) will help with lice/mites, but it is recommended to give it as an injectable by our vet for external parasites at the rate of 2cc per 100lbs, We give it in the armpit area by the front leg. burns like crazy, repeat in 10 days. Wont help much with internal parasites given in this manner. But keep in mind if you goat has LIce, they will look anemic.

ivermectin is used for humans for worming, so probably not a real big deal if there is some carry over in the milk. That is my opinion, I don't have any medical background to back that up.

IVermectin does nothing for tapeworms, not saying that is your problem, just commenting on this. Ivermectin should be given orally for other stomach worms at the recommended dosage of 1cc per 25lbs.

You can use powders or sprays for external parasites. Co-Ral powder works well for lice. There are several other options. pyri

If your goat is having internal parasite problems and lice problems consider getting a hold of some Copasure and giving orally, 1gram of copper oxide rods per 22 lbs. Copper in the system really helps with lice and parasites and healthy hooves.

You are a good 30 days away from kidding so at this point, residuals from worming shouldn't be much of a problem in the milk, but I do know people who milk are using ivermectin as a wormer even while milking and drinking the milk.

If I cannot get a fecal, right now do you think it would be ok if I did your recommended treatment using safeguard and then powdered her for lice? I took all your other info into thought.

Thanks for all the help. I'm really stressed right now...

I just trimmed feet on 4 month pregnant does, gave bo-se/ and vaccinations, and noticed a couple of them looking pale so we wormed just the onse that looked pale, I personally think you would be fine worming her with safegaurd and dusting her for lice. It isn't like there aren't tons of people out their worming on a regular basis, if the goat needs it or not. It just isn't recommended any more, since it can over time build up wormer resistance and their aren't any new wormers being put on the market right now.

So yes, if I were you and you have no way at this time or in the next couple of days to do a fecal, go ahead and worm her. And get her on grain, since she is looking a little thin. Goat grain, not just any all-purpose grain. The protein in the grain will help her system build red-blood cells.
Or do a mix of goat grain and alfalfa pellets. I have also has good luck with beet pulp putting weight on a thin doe.



Oh and take a deep breath and calm down.

 

[ksalvagno]

I would think at least the horse vets would be willing to do a fecal if you brought in the pellets.

If you can get regular Ivomec, I would do that instead of Safeguard. Safeguard does not get Barberpole worm.

 

[20kidsonhill]

I would think at least the horse vets would be willing to do a fecal if you brought in the pellets.

even a small animal vet should be willing to do a fecal, and not turn you away. If doing a fecal, consider coccidiosis for the fecal as well.